Narrative:

San using localizer 27. The restricted captain needed an 800 foot MDA and 2 1/4 miles visibility. At departure time had 800 foot and visibility was approximately five miles. The captain and I spoke before departure and concurred on the restricted minimums and noted the forecast for san only went down to 1000 AGL. After block out ceiling went to 1000 AGL. Enroute the captain advised they did a missed approach and were returning to lax. Psp was their alternate. (Later the captain said they were returning to lax because they did not have the fuel needed to go to psp). Then the captain said san went to ILS 9 which we had minimums for. The captain asked if they had fuel to turn around and continue on to san. I was unable to get numbers for work with fuel on board; using lgb as an alternate which required the least amount of fuel. (I had put on 400 lbs extra fuel and 10 min of hold). The captain continued on to san and landed with 800 lbs less than 45min reserve and fuel to alternate. On dispatch software readout it looked like the flight was halfway between san and lax when they were considering turning back to san. The captain said they were much closer to san which contributed to their decision. Also; the captain said they were flying lower which burns more fuel. We should continue to monitor burn for this leg and make any adjustments as necessary. After initial adjustment looks like we are still off by couple of a hundred pounds. Maybe look into the burn to the alternates too. Possibly get with lax crews and ATC to see what actual altitudes we get. In the meantime possibly ask dispatchers to add fuel until we get this tweaked out. We also appear to need a procedure for crews to inform dispatch when they don't have the fuel to go to their alternate.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A dispatcher discussed fuel problems associated with a new and restricted Captain flying to an airport which fell below his higher than charted minima. Even with fuel added in anticipation of possible issues; the flight ultimately landed with less than required FAA minimum fuel.

Narrative: SAN using LOC 27. The restricted Captain needed an 800 foot MDA and 2 1/4 miles visibility. At departure time had 800 foot and visibility was approximately five miles. The Captain and I spoke before departure and concurred on the restricted minimums and noted the forecast for SAN only went down to 1000 AGL. After block out ceiling went to 1000 AGL. Enroute the Captain advised they did a missed approach and were returning to LAX. PSP was their alternate. (later the Captain said they were returning to LAX because they did not have the fuel needed to go to PSP). Then the Captain said SAN went to ILS 9 which we had minimums for. The Captain asked if they had fuel to turn around and continue on to SAN. I was unable to get numbers for work with fuel on board; using LGB as an alternate which required the least amount of fuel. (I had put on 400 lbs extra fuel and 10 min of hold). the Captain continued on to SAN and landed with 800 lbs less than 45min reserve and fuel to alternate. On dispatch software readout it looked like the flight was halfway between SAN and LAX when they were considering turning back to SAN. The Captain said they were much closer to SAN which contributed to their decision. Also; the Captain said they were flying lower which burns more fuel. We should continue to monitor burn for this leg and make any adjustments as necessary. After initial adjustment looks like we are still off by couple of a hundred pounds. Maybe look into the burn to the alternates too. Possibly get with LAX crews and ATC to see what actual altitudes we get. In the meantime possibly ask dispatchers to add fuel until we get this tweaked out. We also appear to need a procedure for crews to inform dispatch when they don't have the fuel to go to their alternate.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.