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B737 crew was queried by ATC about a crossing restriction at geela on the geela 4 arrival to phx; and replies that none was assigned. Two days later on the same flight a prominent NOTAM was noticed on the front of the weather packet indicating that geela is to be crossed at or below 16;000 ft at 250 KTS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 952796 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201106 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | P50.TRACON |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 284 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Cleared to descend via the geela arrival into phx. We both reviewed the waypoints and altitudes and confirmed them with the box and the arrival plate. We used LNAV and VNAV and for the arrival. Upon passing geela; the approach controller asked if we were given a crossing restriction over geela to which we said no; just a clearance to descend via the arrival. Nothing more was said or implicated. It wasn't until two days later on our flight into phx when I received the weather packet that I saw the NOTAM in bold on the front page. That started us thinking about the prior flight into phx and the controller's comments. Upon or arrival into phx; we asked the controller when the NOTAM had gone into effect and she said about a month earlier. It was then that we figured we had missed the restriction. We never saw the NOTAM buried in the paperwork on our previous flight; but we sure saw it when it was on the front page. Important NOTAMS that change altitudes and/or headings or speeds should be highlighted in the front of the weather packet instead of buried midway back in the NOTAM packet. It was helpful that it was on the front page for our flight to phx.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 crew was queried by ATC about a crossing restriction at GEELA on the GEELA 4 arrival to PHX; and replies that none was assigned. Two days later on the same flight a prominent NOTAM was noticed on the front of the weather packet indicating that GEELA is to be crossed at or below 16;000 FT at 250 KTS.
Narrative: Cleared to descend via the GEELA Arrival into PHX. We both reviewed the waypoints and altitudes and confirmed them with the box and the arrival plate. We used LNAV and VNAV and for the arrival. Upon passing GEELA; the Approach Controller asked if we were given a crossing restriction over GEELA to which we said no; just a clearance to descend via the arrival. Nothing more was said or implicated. It wasn't until two days later on our flight into PHX when I received the weather packet that I saw the NOTAM in bold on the front page. That started us thinking about the prior flight into PHX and the Controller's comments. Upon or arrival into PHX; we asked the Controller when the NOTAM had gone into effect and she said about a month earlier. It was then that we figured we had missed the restriction. We never saw the NOTAM buried in the paperwork on our previous flight; but we sure saw it when it was on the front page. Important NOTAMS that change altitudes and/or headings or speeds should be highlighted in the front of the weather packet instead of buried midway back in the NOTAM packet. It was helpful that it was on the front page for our flight to PHX.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.