![]() |
37000 Feet | Browse and search NASA's Aviation Safety Reporting System |
|
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 92987 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198808 |
| Day | Sat |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : pmd airport : l01 |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Military Trainer |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : v137 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Sail Plane |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| ASRS Report | 92987 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : military |
| Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : military |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 450 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was controling traffic in sector 18 of left.a. ARTCC. Military trainer X was handed off from edw approach control at 11000' going southeast on V137. After 1 min on frequency MTR X advised me that he just had a glider pop up in front of him. I responded and informed MTR X that I painted no targets in that area. The problem is gliders don't have transponders and are detectable on radar only rarely. The glider area 20 mi southeast of palmdale is a bad area for that function and creates a safety hazard for other aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BETWEEN MIL TRAINER AND GLIDER. PLT DEVIATION.
Narrative: I WAS CTLING TFC IN SECTOR 18 OF L.A. ARTCC. MIL TRAINER X WAS HANDED OFF FROM EDW APCH CTL AT 11000' GOING SE ON V137. AFTER 1 MIN ON FREQ MTR X ADVISED ME THAT HE JUST HAD A GLIDER POP UP IN FRONT OF HIM. I RESPONDED AND INFORMED MTR X THAT I PAINTED NO TARGETS IN THAT AREA. THE PROB IS GLIDERS DON'T HAVE TRANSPONDERS AND ARE DETECTABLE ON RADAR ONLY RARELY. THE GLIDER AREA 20 MI SE OF PALMDALE IS A BAD AREA FOR THAT FUNCTION AND CREATES A SAFETY HAZARD FOR OTHER ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.