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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 92595 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198808 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lfi |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | military facility : lfi tracon : orf tower : lfi artcc : zdc |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Military Transport |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Fighter |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 9 |
| ASRS Report | 92595 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time other |
| Consequence | faa : investigated Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
When I relieved another controller the loss of sep had already occurred. An mlt was on 5 mi final, visual approach, on lfi tower frequency. An fgt was on 7 mi final, PAR approach, on lfi rfc frequency. The problem was discovered when the flight had to go around and lfi tower supervisor called orf area manager and complained. When I received my relief briefing, I was told these 2 aircraft were talking to lfi. I assumed they were being separated.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FGT, ON PAR APCH, OVERTOOK SLOWER MLT IN FINAL APCH COURSE RESULTING IN LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION.
Narrative: WHEN I RELIEVED ANOTHER CTLR THE LOSS OF SEP HAD ALREADY OCCURRED. AN MLT WAS ON 5 MI FINAL, VISUAL APCH, ON LFI TWR FREQ. AN FGT WAS ON 7 MI FINAL, PAR APCH, ON LFI RFC FREQ. THE PROB WAS DISCOVERED WHEN THE FLT HAD TO GO AROUND AND LFI TWR SUPVR CALLED ORF AREA MGR AND COMPLAINED. WHEN I RECEIVED MY RELIEF BRIEFING, I WAS TOLD THESE 2 ACFT WERE TALKING TO LFI. I ASSUMED THEY WERE BEING SEPARATED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.