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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 923454 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201012 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PHX.Airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Climb |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Other / Unknown |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Inflight Event / Encounter Wake Vortex Encounter |
Narrative:
I chose this venue to report this issue because of the simplicity and my familiarity with the visual separation departures as a departure controller myself. On departure; very shortly after we become airborne; our aircraft rolled violently left and downwards with a series of extreme turbulent bumps. The event lasted about 15 seconds; maybe more; maybe less; but not much less. I fly fairly frequently and am usually the one calming passengers. However; there was no comfort to be had on this departure. We weren't sure whether it was an evasive maneuver or some other event. After the event I looked down out the window to the left and thought I might actually die that morning. I was staring at the ground that seemed to get closer instead of further. The pilot came on and said something silly to the effect of; 'you may have noticed something unusual on departure; sometimes with the visual departures there's a little bit of wake turbulence; etc etc...' I don't remember what else he said but I can't imagine a lay person would have understood what he entirely meant by visual departures or that we were too close to a preceding departure. I can only hope that the pilot reported the event. I have long believed that visual separation on departures was an unnecessary risk for a number of reasons; more so affecting us on departures; but now have had a very real and frightening taste of another reason. Recommendation; eliminate visual separation departures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: Controller passenger described experiencing a wake turbulence event on departure suggesting departure visual separation be eliminated for safety reasons.
Narrative: I chose this venue to report this issue because of the simplicity and my familiarity with the visual separation departures as a Departure Controller myself. On departure; very shortly after we become airborne; our aircraft rolled violently left and downwards with a series of extreme turbulent bumps. The event lasted about 15 seconds; maybe more; maybe less; but not much less. I fly fairly frequently and am usually the one calming passengers. However; there was no comfort to be had on this departure. We weren't sure whether it was an evasive maneuver or some other event. After the event I looked down out the window to the left and thought I might actually die that morning. I was staring at the ground that seemed to get closer instead of further. The Pilot came on and said something silly to the effect of; 'you may have noticed something unusual on departure; sometimes with the visual departures there's a little bit of wake turbulence; etc etc...' I don't remember what else he said but I can't imagine a lay person would have understood what he entirely meant by visual departures or that we were too close to a preceding departure. I can only hope that the Pilot reported the event. I have long believed that visual separation on departures was an unnecessary risk for a number of reasons; more so affecting us on departures; but now have had a very real and frightening taste of another reason. Recommendation; eliminate visual separation departures.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.