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A tired crj flight crew accepted a night visual approach into avl with surrounding high terrain despite having agreed to not do so during a pre-departure briefing. Upon beginning descent while on downwind they received an egpws terrain warning; climbed back to altitude and continued downwind to an appropriate spot from which to follow ILS guidance.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 920227 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201011 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | AVL.Airport |
| State Reference | NC |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER/LR (CRJ200) |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Pilot Not Flying First Officer |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial |
| Person 2 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP) |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Prior to departure; we covered the terrain considerations and special procedures for avl arrivals.we were cleared down to 5;500 ft with avl approach. We were asked if we saw the airport by ATC; we responded yes. We unwisely accepted a clearance for a visual to 16. Still at 5;500 ft; I stated to the pilot flying that we should remain there until intercepting. While I was looking at the runway outside the side window the captain asked me 'does it look ok to you?' to which I responded 'yes.'we had just started down from 5;500 ft when we received an egpws caution message. We immediately initiated the escape maneuver and were clear before we had time to complete it. We then proceeded to join the ILS localizer and glideslope and made a normal landing.we made the mistake of accepting a visual approach even though we covered the airport specific procedures in our manuals; including the company pages during the departure briefing. It was the 6th and final leg of a 13 and a half hour duty day; and I was used to flying in daylight there and accepting visual approaches.more assertiveness training for the first officer might be called for. My suggestion should have been phrased clearer and with more advocacy. The long duty day could have been a contributing factor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A tired CRJ flight crew accepted a night visual approach into AVL with surrounding high terrain despite having agreed to not do so during a pre-departure briefing. Upon beginning descent while on downwind they received an EGPWS terrain warning; climbed back to altitude and continued downwind to an appropriate spot from which to follow ILS guidance.
Narrative: Prior to departure; we covered the terrain considerations and special procedures for AVL arrivals.We were cleared down to 5;500 FT with AVL approach. We were asked if we saw the airport by ATC; we responded yes. We unwisely accepted a clearance for a visual to 16. Still at 5;500 FT; I stated to the pilot flying that we should remain there until intercepting. While I was looking at the runway outside the side window the Captain asked me 'Does it look OK to you?' To which I responded 'yes.'We had just started down from 5;500 FT when we received an EGPWS caution message. We immediately initiated the escape maneuver and were clear before we had time to complete it. We then proceeded to join the ILS localizer and glideslope and made a normal landing.We made the mistake of accepting a visual approach even though we covered the airport specific procedures in our manuals; including the company pages during the departure briefing. It was the 6th and final leg of a 13 and a half hour duty day; and I was used to flying in daylight there and accepting visual approaches.More assertiveness training for the first officer might be called for. My suggestion should have been phrased clearer and with more advocacy. The long duty day could have been a contributing factor.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.