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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||atc facility : alb|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 9000|
msl bound upper : 10000
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : zbw|
tracon : alb
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng|
|Flight Phase||climbout : intermediate altitude|
|Route In Use||enroute : direct|
enroute airway : zbw
enroute airway : alb
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 22|
flight time total : 3460
flight time type : 300
|Affiliation||government : faa|
|Function||controller : radar|
|Qualification||controller : radar|
|Anomaly||other spatial deviation|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||Operational Deviation|
On ground cleared as filed (btv-V487-bdr direct isp) over at altitude (9000') and just south of griss intersection clearance changed to direct alb V487 CCC direct isp. Told center V487 doesn't go out of alb and does not go to CCC. ATC asked us to wait. 10-12 mins went by, no clearance. We repeated request and were switched to alb approach 'who will have clearance.' alb gave us direct pwl V44 CCC direct isp. We insisted V44 didn't go to CCC and suggested that what they meant was V91 from bdr to CCC. Another 10 min wait. Sent to 10000', turned to 270 degrees, sent to 9000', turned back. Asked for explanation, given none. Finally cleared direct bdr direct CCC direct isp. Point of this report: had I lost radios, I was in instrument conditions with a clearance that was impossible to follow. Had this been the first time, I would have said nothing. But this is the fourth time in the last yr that I've been issued an unfeasible clearance.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT PLT GIVEN AIRWAY ROUTING THAT WAS INCORRECT, TWICE.
Narrative: ON GND CLRED AS FILED (BTV-V487-BDR DIRECT ISP) OVER AT ALT (9000') AND JUST S OF GRISS INTXN CLRNC CHANGED TO DIRECT ALB V487 CCC DIRECT ISP. TOLD CENTER V487 DOESN'T GO OUT OF ALB AND DOES NOT GO TO CCC. ATC ASKED US TO WAIT. 10-12 MINS WENT BY, NO CLRNC. WE REPEATED REQUEST AND WERE SWITCHED TO ALB APCH 'WHO WILL HAVE CLRNC.' ALB GAVE US DIRECT PWL V44 CCC DIRECT ISP. WE INSISTED V44 DIDN'T GO TO CCC AND SUGGESTED THAT WHAT THEY MEANT WAS V91 FROM BDR TO CCC. ANOTHER 10 MIN WAIT. SENT TO 10000', TURNED TO 270 DEGS, SENT TO 9000', TURNED BACK. ASKED FOR EXPLANATION, GIVEN NONE. FINALLY CLRED DIRECT BDR DIRECT CCC DIRECT ISP. POINT OF THIS RPT: HAD I LOST RADIOS, I WAS IN INSTRUMENT CONDITIONS WITH A CLRNC THAT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO FOLLOW. HAD THIS BEEN THE FIRST TIME, I WOULD HAVE SAID NOTHING. BUT THIS IS THE FOURTH TIME IN THE LAST YR THAT I'VE BEEN ISSUED AN UNFEASIBLE CLRNC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.