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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 91298 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198807 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : lhs |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 9000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zla |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
| Flight Phase | descent other |
| Route In Use | arrival star : star |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 25 flight time total : 750 flight time type : 280 |
| ASRS Report | 91298 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
My assigned altitude as I approached the lhs VOR was 9000' MSL. After crossing the VOR I descended to 7800' MSL, then 7000' MSL on the lhs 170 degree right. Immediately upon leveling off at 7000' MSL, 7 DME south of lhs, center called requesting my altitude. Center then informed me that the published altitudes on the STAR are minimums, not assigned altitudes, and that a filed STAR did not authorize descent west/O authorization by ATC. This STAR was the first I had ever flown, either in training or PIC. I always thought the STAR clearance constituted authorization to descend. Upon returning home I checked 3 popular instrument training texts I own and found none contained text outlining what the published altitudes meant. Consequently my training and experience were inadequate to the task. Center acknowledged it was a common misconception among pilots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA SMA INEXPERIENCED PLT DESCENDED TO MEA ON STAR WITHOUT CLRNC.
Narrative: MY ASSIGNED ALT AS I APCHED THE LHS VOR WAS 9000' MSL. AFTER XING THE VOR I DSNDED TO 7800' MSL, THEN 7000' MSL ON THE LHS 170 DEG R. IMMEDIATELY UPON LEVELING OFF AT 7000' MSL, 7 DME S OF LHS, CENTER CALLED REQUESTING MY ALT. CENTER THEN INFORMED ME THAT THE PUBLISHED ALTS ON THE STAR ARE MINIMUMS, NOT ASSIGNED ALTS, AND THAT A FILED STAR DID NOT AUTHORIZE DSCNT W/O AUTHORIZATION BY ATC. THIS STAR WAS THE FIRST I HAD EVER FLOWN, EITHER IN TRNING OR PIC. I ALWAYS THOUGHT THE STAR CLRNC CONSTITUTED AUTHORIZATION TO DSND. UPON RETURNING HOME I CHKED 3 POPULAR INSTRUMENT TRNING TEXTS I OWN AND FOUND NONE CONTAINED TEXT OUTLINING WHAT THE PUBLISHED ALTS MEANT. CONSEQUENTLY MY TRNING AND EXPERIENCE WERE INADEQUATE TO THE TASK. CENTER ACKNOWLEDGED IT WAS A COMMON MISCONCEPTION AMONG PLTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.