Cpr mdt without a reservation asks permission to divert from teb to jfk.

Attributes
ACN	89783
Time
Date	198806
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tracon : n90
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Medium Transport
Flight Phase	descent : approach other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000
ASRS Report	89783
Person 2
Affiliation	government : faa
Function	controller : approach
Qualification	controller : radar
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other
Situations
ATC Facility	procedure or policy : unspecified

Narrative:

While executing the metropolitan arrival to teb, IFR, though ground conditions were VFR, we were given a hold at yardley when we were already 2 or 3 mi north of the VOR. The time was XA40 and we were given an efc time of XA55 local. XA55 came and went and so we asked for and received a new efc time of XB10. We also asked what the problem at teb was and were told that teb was simply saturated. At my request the sjc explained to approach that we had a helicopter waiting at teb to take our passenger to jfk so if we couldn't get into teb could we get into jfk. We were immediately cleared direct to robbinsville and then the VOR circling into runway 13. Though our handling, specifically the hold at yardley, left a little to be desired, I understand how busy the ny area is this time of year. My problem is figuring out if I was in violation of the far's with regard to not having a reservation at jfk. I made the statement to ny approach that I didn't wish to break the far's, but they were too busy to discuss the fine points of VFR or IFR, etc. Could you clarify this for me?

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CPR MDT WITHOUT A RESERVATION ASKS PERMISSION TO DIVERT FROM TEB TO JFK.

Narrative: WHILE EXECUTING THE METRO ARR TO TEB, IFR, THOUGH GND CONDITIONS WERE VFR, WE WERE GIVEN A HOLD AT YARDLEY WHEN WE WERE ALREADY 2 OR 3 MI N OF THE VOR. THE TIME WAS XA40 AND WE WERE GIVEN AN EFC TIME OF XA55 LCL. XA55 CAME AND WENT AND SO WE ASKED FOR AND RECEIVED A NEW EFC TIME OF XB10. WE ALSO ASKED WHAT THE PROB AT TEB WAS AND WERE TOLD THAT TEB WAS SIMPLY SATURATED. AT MY REQUEST THE SJC EXPLAINED TO APCH THAT WE HAD A HELI WAITING AT TEB TO TAKE OUR PAX TO JFK SO IF WE COULDN'T GET INTO TEB COULD WE GET INTO JFK. WE WERE IMMEDIATELY CLRED DIRECT TO ROBBINSVILLE AND THEN THE VOR CIRCLING INTO RWY 13. THOUGH OUR HANDLING, SPECIFICALLY THE HOLD AT YARDLEY, LEFT A LITTLE TO BE DESIRED, I UNDERSTAND HOW BUSY THE NY AREA IS THIS TIME OF YEAR. MY PROB IS FIGURING OUT IF I WAS IN VIOLATION OF THE FAR'S WITH REGARD TO NOT HAVING A RESERVATION AT JFK. I MADE THE STATEMENT TO NY APCH THAT I DIDN'T WISH TO BREAK THE FAR'S, BUT THEY WERE TOO BUSY TO DISCUSS THE FINE POINTS OF VFR OR IFR, ETC. COULD YOU CLARIFY THIS FOR ME?

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.