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Aviation Safety Reporting System
|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : mie|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 2100|
msl bound upper : 2100
|Controlling Facilities||tower : mie|
|Operator||general aviation : personal|
|Make Model Name||Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Operator||general aviation : corporate|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
|Function||instruction : instructor|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : cfi
pilot : instrument
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 50|
flight time total : 400
flight time type : 250
|Function||flight crew : single pilot|
|Anomaly||conflict : airborne less severe|
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||flight crew : took evasive action|
|Miss Distance||horizontal : 800|
vertical : 100
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
A private pilot (sel) and myself (CFI) filed VFR from wright-patterson AFB to mie for a cross country navigation chkout and dinner. 5 NM east of mie we called tower and were directed to 'report 3 mi left base for runway 20.' we started a descent from 2500' MSL to tpa of 1937' MSL. At 3.5 NM east of muncie I noticed an light transport Y approaching from our left, approximately at the same altitude (2100'). I took the controls and rolled into a descending 60 degree bank right hand turn. After completing a 360 degree turn and rolling out we heard the light transport Y tell tower he had 'a near miss with an small transport.' tower's reply was 'there is no small aircraft traffic at mci,' and proceeded to ask an aircraft (also in the pattern) where he was just after the aircraft told tower he was just landing. We reported our actions and position. Mci tower asked us to follow the light transport Y for landing. We complied. Tower cleared the light transport Y for landing with a phrase something like, 'cleared to land runway 20, no further traffic in your way.' our landing was uneventful. My concerns are: why didn't mci tower report our presence to the light transport Y? Why was the light transport Y flying downwind outside the air traffic area? Did the light transport Y see us and if so why was there no apparent collision avoidance steps taken on his part?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA TOOK AVOIDANCE ACTION TO MISS LTT IN TRAFFIC PATTERN. LTT ADVISED TWR OF NMAC WITH SMA.
Narrative: A PVT PLT (SEL) AND MYSELF (CFI) FILED VFR FROM WRIGHT-PATTERSON AFB TO MIE FOR A CROSS COUNTRY NAV CHKOUT AND DINNER. 5 NM E OF MIE WE CALLED TWR AND WERE DIRECTED TO 'RPT 3 MI LEFT BASE FOR RWY 20.' WE STARTED A DSCNT FROM 2500' MSL TO TPA OF 1937' MSL. AT 3.5 NM E OF MUNCIE I NOTICED AN LTT Y APCHING FROM OUR LEFT, APPROX AT THE SAME ALT (2100'). I TOOK THE CTLS AND ROLLED INTO A DSNDING 60 DEG BANK RIGHT HAND TURN. AFTER COMPLETING A 360 DEG TURN AND ROLLING OUT WE HEARD THE LTT Y TELL TWR HE HAD 'A NEAR MISS WITH AN SMT.' TWR'S REPLY WAS 'THERE IS NO SMA TFC AT MCI,' AND PROCEEDED TO ASK AN ACFT (ALSO IN THE PATTERN) WHERE HE WAS JUST AFTER THE ACFT TOLD TWR HE WAS JUST LNDG. WE RPTED OUR ACTIONS AND POS. MCI TWR ASKED US TO FOLLOW THE LTT Y FOR LNDG. WE COMPLIED. TWR CLRED THE LTT Y FOR LNDG WITH A PHRASE SOMETHING LIKE, 'CLRED TO LAND RWY 20, NO FURTHER TFC IN YOUR WAY.' OUR LNDG WAS UNEVENTFUL. MY CONCERNS ARE: WHY DIDN'T MCI TWR RPT OUR PRESENCE TO THE LTT Y? WHY WAS THE LTT Y FLYING DOWNWIND OUTSIDE THE ATA? DID THE LTT Y SEE US AND IF SO WHY WAS THERE NO APPARENT COLLISION AVOIDANCE STEPS TAKEN ON HIS PART?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.