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First officer of air carrier medium large transport flew an unstabilized approach with aci in cockpit conducting a route check.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 89404 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198806 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ict |
| State Reference | KS |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : ict |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing other |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 10200 flight time type : 5200 |
| ASRS Report | 89404 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On flight to wichita, ks, approach was conducted in visual conditions. Approach control kept us at 10000' MSL until 18 NM from airport, which made descent difficult. Conditions were a little gusty. Speed was kept at 10-15 KTS, above target speed, and aircraft went approximately 1 DOT below G/south at approximately 1000' AGL. There was an aci onboard who stated that the approach was not acceptable to him, and he felt it should have been more stabilized. I was flying the approach, and both the capts and myself felt the approach was within limits.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FO OF ACR MLG FLEW AN UNSTABILIZED APCH WITH ACI IN COCKPIT CONDUCTING A ROUTE CHECK.
Narrative: ON FLT TO WICHITA, KS, APCH WAS CONDUCTED IN VISUAL CONDITIONS. APCH CTL KEPT US AT 10000' MSL UNTIL 18 NM FROM ARPT, WHICH MADE DSCNT DIFFICULT. CONDITIONS WERE A LITTLE GUSTY. SPD WAS KEPT AT 10-15 KTS, ABOVE TARGET SPD, AND ACFT WENT APPROX 1 DOT BELOW G/S AT APPROX 1000' AGL. THERE WAS AN ACI ONBOARD WHO STATED THAT THE APCH WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE TO HIM, AND HE FELT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE STABILIZED. I WAS FLYING THE APCH, AND BOTH THE CAPTS AND MYSELF FELT THE APCH WAS WITHIN LIMITS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.