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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 892363 |
| Time | |
| Date | 201006 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | PHX.Airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B737-700 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Descent |
| Route In Use | STAR GEELA 2 |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | FMS/FMC |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Captain Pilot Flying |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 125 Flight Crew Type 125 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Altitude Crossing Restriction Not Met Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Arriving into phx on the geela 2 arrival; we were cleared to descend via the arrival and then told to delete speed restrictions. You can't just delete the speed only on the CDU; so I deleted the line and then retyped the altitude. I believe I might have put in 11;000' instead of 10;000'. Five miles later; as we were reaching 10;000 feet; the controller asked our altitude. She mentioned we were supposed to be there a few miles ago. I think if ATC is going to change any of the descend via [clearance] and not allow you to just fly it as published; they should revert to altitude and airspeed directives. I also believe I won't be retyping altitudes on arrivals just using the airspeed override button.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 Captain arriving PHX on the GEELA 2 was instructed to delete the speed restrictions. An altitude deviation; that was noted by the Controller; was the result of an FMC programing error.
Narrative: Arriving into PHX on the GEELA 2 Arrival; we were cleared to descend via the arrival and then told to delete speed restrictions. You can't just delete the speed only on the CDU; so I deleted the line and then retyped the altitude. I believe I might have put in 11;000' instead of 10;000'. Five miles later; as we were reaching 10;000 feet; the Controller asked our altitude. She mentioned we were supposed to be there a few miles ago. I think if ATC is going to change any of the Descend Via [clearance] and not allow you to just fly it as published; they should revert to altitude and airspeed directives. I also believe I won't be retyping altitudes on arrivals just using the airspeed override button.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.