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Medium large transport vectored during climb to miss traffic and then handed off to next sector on conflict heading with company aircraft. Controller intervened, but not before separation lost.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 88239 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bwi |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 18500 msl bound upper : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | departure other enroute : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | other pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 700 |
| ASRS Report | 88239 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 27000 vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Departing from bwi on climb out talking to washington center. Cleared to FL230 and about to make turn to intercept 235 degree right inbound to woodstown VOR. About that time got call from center to turn right to 090 degrees and expedite through 17000'. (I was working radios, captain was flying.) out of 17000' I called center and advised out of 17000'. He acknowledged. Out of 18200' he called and said, 'level at 18000'.' I said, 'roger, going back down to 18000'.' he then said, 'turn left to 030 degrees.' he also told us that we overshot the radial which our radios did not confirm. After switching to next controller, we were told that the previous controller had a possible traffic conflict with an aircraft at 16000' and our airplane. Therefore, the turn to 090 degrees and the 'expedite through 17000',' but the turn put us in conflict with a company medium large transport Y at 19000' in the next controller's airspace. Therefore, the 'level at 18000'' request. The new controller said it was no fault of ours. The only disturbing thing was the jerky handling of our aircraft and the way he seemed to want to blame us.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG VECTORED DURING CLIMB TO MISS TRAFFIC AND THEN HANDED OFF TO NEXT SECTOR ON CONFLICT HEADING WITH COMPANY ACFT. CTLR INTERVENED, BUT NOT BEFORE SEPARATION LOST.
Narrative: DEPARTING FROM BWI ON CLBOUT TALKING TO WASHINGTON CENTER. CLRED TO FL230 AND ABOUT TO MAKE TURN TO INTERCEPT 235 DEG R INBND TO WOODSTOWN VOR. ABOUT THAT TIME GOT CALL FROM CENTER TO TURN RIGHT TO 090 DEGS AND EXPEDITE THROUGH 17000'. (I WAS WORKING RADIOS, CAPT WAS FLYING.) OUT OF 17000' I CALLED CENTER AND ADVISED OUT OF 17000'. HE ACKNOWLEDGED. OUT OF 18200' HE CALLED AND SAID, 'LEVEL AT 18000'.' I SAID, 'ROGER, GOING BACK DOWN TO 18000'.' HE THEN SAID, 'TURN LEFT TO 030 DEGS.' HE ALSO TOLD US THAT WE OVERSHOT THE RADIAL WHICH OUR RADIOS DID NOT CONFIRM. AFTER SWITCHING TO NEXT CTLR, WE WERE TOLD THAT THE PREVIOUS CTLR HAD A POSSIBLE TFC CONFLICT WITH AN ACFT AT 16000' AND OUR AIRPLANE. THEREFORE, THE TURN TO 090 DEGS AND THE 'EXPEDITE THROUGH 17000',' BUT THE TURN PUT US IN CONFLICT WITH A COMPANY MLG Y AT 19000' IN THE NEXT CTLR'S AIRSPACE. THEREFORE, THE 'LEVEL AT 18000'' REQUEST. THE NEW CTLR SAID IT WAS NO FAULT OF OURS. THE ONLY DISTURBING THING WAS THE JERKY HANDLING OF OUR ACFT AND THE WAY HE SEEMED TO WANT TO BLAME US.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.