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|Local Time Of Day||1201 To 1800|
|Locale Reference||airport : bqk|
|Altitude||msl bound lower : 8000|
msl bound upper : 8000
|Controlling Facilities||artcc : zjx|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Light Transport, High Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng|
|Flight Phase||cruise other|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Qualification||pilot : atp|
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 220|
flight time total : 6000
flight time type : 2500
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : commercial|
pilot : instrument
|Anomaly||inflight encounter : weather|
other anomaly other
|Independent Detector||other controllera|
|Resolutory Action||controller : issued new clearance|
|Primary Problem||ATC Human Performance|
|Air Traffic Incident||other|
We asked to deviate left of course to avoid thunderstorm and after deviation, direct glynco jetport. ATC advised ok to deviate. When approximately 30 miles northwest of glynco (bqk) ATC advised we had entered restr airspace and told us to turn right to heading 180 degree from our deviation heading of approximately 130. We advised that we would be unable heading 180 but could turn to 150 and could turn further right after approximately 10 miles and clear of thunderstorm. His response was 'squawk 7700'. He then would not respond to our question of why he had allowed us to enter restr airspace, he then switched us to the next controller 135.45 who gave us lower altitude and a new heading to stay clear of weather. We asked him to respond to our previous question. His response was very confusing but appeared to indicate that we had not entered restr airspace but were above it. He then asked us to squawk our previous squawk. It appears the first controller waited until it was too late to point out the problem with restr airspace. Traffic was very light and possibly he was not paying close enough attention. It is ATC responsibility to separate me from known traffic and restr airspace under IFR. Jax center is an accident just waiting to happen. The experience level is too low and the amount of training too high. I do not know if the safety of my flight was compromised or not. I do know that a turn into a thunderstorm would have endangered the flight.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LTT WAS GIVEN EMERGENCY SQUAWK WHILE DEVIATING FROM WX. CTLR STATED THE ACFT HAD ENTERED A RESTRICTED AREA, BUT NEXT CTLR SAID HE WAS ABOVE IT.
Narrative: WE ASKED TO DEVIATE LEFT OF COURSE TO AVOID THUNDERSTORM AND AFTER DEVIATION, DIRECT GLYNCO JETPORT. ATC ADVISED OK TO DEVIATE. WHEN APPROX 30 MILES NORTHWEST OF GLYNCO (BQK) ATC ADVISED WE HAD ENTERED RESTR AIRSPACE AND TOLD US TO TURN RIGHT TO HEADING 180 DEG FROM OUR DEVIATION HEADING OF APPROX 130. WE ADVISED THAT WE WOULD BE UNABLE HEADING 180 BUT COULD TURN TO 150 AND COULD TURN FURTHER RIGHT AFTER APPROX 10 MILES AND CLEAR OF THUNDERSTORM. HIS RESPONSE WAS 'SQUAWK 7700'. HE THEN WOULD NOT RESPOND TO OUR QUESTION OF WHY HE HAD ALLOWED US TO ENTER RESTR AIRSPACE, HE THEN SWITCHED US TO THE NEXT CTLR 135.45 WHO GAVE US LOWER ALT AND A NEW HEADING TO STAY CLEAR OF WEATHER. WE ASKED HIM TO RESPOND TO OUR PREVIOUS QUESTION. HIS RESPONSE WAS VERY CONFUSING BUT APPEARED TO INDICATE THAT WE HAD NOT ENTERED RESTR AIRSPACE BUT WERE ABOVE IT. HE THEN ASKED US TO SQUAWK OUR PREVIOUS SQUAWK. IT APPEARS THE FIRST CTLR WAITED UNTIL IT WAS TOO LATE TO POINT OUT THE PROBLEM WITH RESTR AIRSPACE. TFC WAS VERY LIGHT AND POSSIBLY HE WAS NOT PAYING CLOSE ENOUGH ATTN. IT IS ATC RESPONSIBILITY TO SEPARATE ME FROM KNOWN TFC AND RESTR AIRSPACE UNDER IFR. JAX CENTER IS AN ACCIDENT JUST WAITING TO HAPPEN. THE EXPERIENCE LEVEL IS TOO LOW AND THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING TOO HIGH. I DO NOT KNOW IF THE SAFETY OF MY FLT WAS COMPROMISED OR NOT. I DO KNOW THAT A TURN INTO A THUNDERSTORM WOULD HAVE ENDANGERED THE FLT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.