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Air carrier medium large transport given incorrect holding instructions with a turn made in the wrong direction.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 87003 |
| Time | |
| Date | 198805 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : hnk |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other |
| Flight Phase | other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 15000 flight time type : 1000 |
| ASRS Report | 87003 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 850 |
| ASRS Report | 86739 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Holding instructions from ny ATC hold northeast of hnk on the 010 degree right turns between 10/30 DME. Further clearance at XA00Z M-FL180. Entered hold with a right turn 25 degrees of bank about halfway through turn controller asked us to tighten the turn. He then came back and asked if we were flying l-turns in the hold. We informed him he had issued us holding with right turns. Both the first officer and myself copied the same thing. He came back and said he had made the error.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG GIVEN INCORRECT HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS WITH A TURN MADE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
Narrative: HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS FROM NY ATC HOLD NE OF HNK ON THE 010 DEG RIGHT TURNS BTWN 10/30 DME. FURTHER CLRNC AT XA00Z M-FL180. ENTERED HOLD WITH A RIGHT TURN 25 DEGS OF BANK ABOUT HALFWAY THROUGH TURN CTLR ASKED US TO TIGHTEN THE TURN. HE THEN CAME BACK AND ASKED IF WE WERE FLYING L-TURNS IN THE HOLD. WE INFORMED HIM HE HAD ISSUED US HOLDING WITH RIGHT TURNS. BOTH THE F/O AND MYSELF COPIED THE SAME THING. HE CAME BACK AND SAID HE HAD MADE THE ERROR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.