A PA-34 with instructor and student experienced nose gear collapse on touchdown.

Attributes
ACN	868293
Time
Date	201001
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	ZZZ.Airport
State Reference	US
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	PA-34-200T Turbo Seneca II
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	Landing
Flight Plan	VFR
Component
Aircraft Component	Nose Gear
Person 1
Function	Pilot Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 10 Flight Crew Total 520 Flight Crew Type 4
Person 2
Function	Instructor Pilot Not Flying
Qualification	Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Multiengine
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 182 Flight Crew Total 11129 Flight Crew Type 19
Events
Anomaly	Aircraft Equipment Problem Critical Ground Event / Encounter Ground Strike - Aircraft

Narrative:

Myself and instructor (CFI me) were on our third and final check-out flight in a twin seneca ii aircraft. We had previously logged 1.2 hours and 4 normal landings earlier in the week. I needed a total of 5 hours of check-out in order to meet the insurance requirement for rental. We were making touch-and-gos. We had made 2 normal landings previously and were planning on a full stop this time. We put the gear down on the downwind leg and got 3-green lights indicated. We made a normal landing on the last 1/3 of the threshold with 30 degrees of flaps in. We set down on the back wheels first and the nose just kept coming down. There was no sensation that we even briefly touched on the nose gear. I maintained control of the aircraft as the plane skidded on its nose until it came to a complete stop. At that time I shut off the mags and master power; alternators and shut the fuel off. We exited the plane and observed no fuel leaking or any other fluids spilling out. Before they lifted the plane for towing I re-entered the plane; made note of the hobbs time in the logbook which we left in the plane and I turned on the master switch and raised the flaps to prevent any possible or further damage to them during the tow.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A PA-34 with instructor and student experienced nose gear collapse on touchdown.

Narrative: Myself and instructor (CFI ME) were on our third and final check-out flight in a Twin Seneca II aircraft. We had previously logged 1.2 hours and 4 normal landings earlier in the week. I needed a total of 5 hours of check-out in order to meet the insurance requirement for rental. We were making touch-and-gos. We had made 2 normal landings previously and were planning on a full stop this time. We put the gear down on the downwind leg and got 3-green lights indicated. We made a normal landing on the last 1/3 of the threshold with 30 degrees of flaps in. We set down on the back wheels first and the nose just kept coming down. There was no sensation that we even briefly touched on the nose gear. I maintained control of the aircraft as the plane skidded on its nose until it came to a complete stop. At that time I shut off the mags and master power; alternators and shut the fuel off. We exited the plane and observed no fuel leaking or any other fluids spilling out. Before they lifted the plane for towing I re-entered the plane; made note of the Hobbs time in the logbook which we left in the plane and I turned on the master switch and raised the flaps to prevent any possible or further damage to them during the tow.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.