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ZOB controller described confused event when traffic for lga was initially accepted but then immediately turned back into no notice holding; reporter noting identical event several minutes later; adding procedure was unsafe.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 859364 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200911 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | LGA.Airport |
| State Reference | NY |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Vectoring aircraft to lga to meet 20 mile in trail restriction imposed by ZNY. With 7 aircraft on vectors; and two flashing handoff to ZNY; the mip sector at ZNY calls and says they are only taking one plane to lga. No notice of a hold; now we take the handoff's back and vector and reoute aircraft to holding fix; too much work to to do and pointouts to make. Two minutes later ZNY calls back and says; cancel the hold. Exact same thing occurs 20 minutes later; this is very unsafe. ZNY cannot handle the traffic and puts ZOB into a no notice hold several times a day for lga traffic. The mip sector has no other traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB controller described confused event when traffic for LGA was initially accepted but then immediately turned back into no notice holding; reporter noting identical event several minutes later; adding procedure was unsafe.
Narrative: Vectoring aircraft to LGA to meet 20 mile in trail restriction imposed by ZNY. With 7 aircraft on vectors; and two flashing handoff to ZNY; the MIP sector at ZNY calls and says they are only taking one plane to LGA. NO notice of a hold; now we take the handoff's back and vector and reoute aircraft to holding fix; too much work to to do and pointouts to make. Two minutes later ZNY calls back and says; cancel the hold. Exact same thing occurs 20 minutes later; this is very unsafe. ZNY cannot handle the traffic and puts ZOB into a no notice hold several times a day for LGA traffic. The MIP sector has no other traffic.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.