Near midair collision between GA-small aircraft and 2 MTR's in military alert area.

Attributes
ACN	85144
Time
Date	198804
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	atc facility : ali
State Reference	TX
Altitude	msl bound lower : 7400 msl bound upper : 7500
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 2400
ASRS Report	85144
Person 2
Function	flight crew : single pilot
Qualification	pilot : military
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance

Narrative:

En route from rio grande valley to dallas at 7500' when 2 MTR's information came towards me from 10-11 O'clock and a little high. I dove to avoid them. I believe they never saw me. They made a large 360 degree turn while I continued on course and recovered to 7500'. I watched them continue their turn. When they were 1/2 mi off and coming back towards me again, I turned the wing (60 degree) bank so they might see me. They continued directly for me again, so I dove again. That was twice I took evasive action and I believe each time we would have hit and each time they did not even see me. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following: estimated miss distance was 100' vertical and 0' horizontal. Pilot licenses: held commercial, instrument and CFI. No FAA near midair collision filed.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: NMAC BETWEEN GA-SMA AND 2 MTR'S IN MIL ALERT AREA.

Narrative: ENRTE FROM RIO GRANDE VALLEY TO DALLAS AT 7500' WHEN 2 MTR'S INFO CAME TOWARDS ME FROM 10-11 O'CLOCK AND A LITTLE HIGH. I DOVE TO AVOID THEM. I BELIEVE THEY NEVER SAW ME. THEY MADE A LARGE 360 DEG TURN WHILE I CONTINUED ON COURSE AND RECOVERED TO 7500'. I WATCHED THEM CONTINUE THEIR TURN. WHEN THEY WERE 1/2 MI OFF AND COMING BACK TOWARDS ME AGAIN, I TURNED THE WING (60 DEG) BANK SO THEY MIGHT SEE ME. THEY CONTINUED DIRECTLY FOR ME AGAIN, SO I DOVE AGAIN. THAT WAS TWICE I TOOK EVASIVE ACTION AND I BELIEVE EACH TIME WE WOULD HAVE HIT AND EACH TIME THEY DID NOT EVEN SEE ME. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING: ESTIMATED MISS DISTANCE WAS 100' VERT AND 0' HORIZ. PLT LICENSES: HELD COMMERCIAL, INSTRUMENT AND CFI. NO FAA NMAC FILED.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of August 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.