<< >> NASA ASRS Report 836677, May 2009

Pct controller described another eldee four STAR 'early descent' event; noting numerous same type event.

Attributes
ACN	836677
Time
Date	200905
Local Time Of Day	1201-1800
Place
Locale Reference	ZDC.ARTCC
State Reference	VA
Environment
Flight Conditions	Mixed
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Initial Approach
Route In Use	STAR ELDEE
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Enroute Departure Approach
Qualification	Air Traffic Control Fully Certified
Experience	Air Traffic Control Radar 22 Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 7
Events
Anomaly	Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy

Narrative:

This was the third 'early descent' in an eight hour shift. The crew was issued a descend via the eldee four arrival clearance. From the center (ZDC) they were issued cross doccs at 15;000 ft the first step down from the arrival is morty 15 miles past ldn. As the crew passed ldn their mode C indicated 147 they were notified; said roger and continued to descend to 133 before climbing. This arrival apparently continues to cause problems for dca arrivals; as this is probably the twentieth pilot deviation I am personally aware of in the pass couple months.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: PCT Controller described another ELDEE FOUR STAR 'early descent' event; noting numerous same type event.

Narrative: This was the third 'early descent' in an eight hour shift. The crew was issued a descend via the ELDEE FOUR ARRIVAL clearance. From the Center (ZDC) they were issued cross DOCCS at 15;000 FT the first step down from the arrival is MORTY 15 miles past LDN. As the crew passed LDN their Mode C indicated 147 they were notified; said roger and continued to descend to 133 before climbing. This arrival apparently continues to cause problems for DCA arrivals; as this is probably the twentieth pilot deviation I am personally aware of in the pass couple months.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.