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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 826775 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200903 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ATL.Airport |
| State Reference | GA |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 170/175 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | Initial Approach |
| Route In Use | STAR ERLIN 5 |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Approach |
| Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified Flight Crew Instrument |
| Experience | Air Traffic Control Radar 22.3 Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 4 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy |
Narrative:
Due to the inept ability of the FAA to process changes to the RNAV stars into atl in a timely manner; there is a state of confusion as to the actual current published stars and what is to be expected of the pilots. Unfortunately; the controller did not issue a speed of 250 KTS to the B757; but did issue a speed of 250 KTS to all aircraft behind the B757. The B757 turned at nofiv and descended; as instructed; but did not slow to cross nofiv at 210 KTS (as published). The subsequent controller noticed; too late; that the B757 did reduce speed; at a point well beyond nofiv. This indicated to that controller that the B757 reduced speed on their own and not in compliance with any published procedure -- in this case the ERLIN5 RNAV arrival into atl. The controller who issued 250 KTS to all subsequent aircraft has been charged with a 'category B operational error; wake' event. There have been rumors and statements that the speeds on all the RNAV arrivals into atl have been notamed out or are no longer applicable; when in fact they still remain; more than 5 charting cycles after this facility (A80) has requested their removal. This is clearly unacceptable performance by the FAA and the associated offices responsible to ensure timely aeronautical information. A danger clearly exists.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A80 Controller voiced concern regarding ATL RNAV STARS; indicating an operational error occurred because of confusion regarding published speeds and altitudes; noting RNAV proposed changes have been recommended for more than 5 charting cycles.
Narrative: Due to the inept ability of the FAA to process changes to the RNAV STARs into ATL in a timely manner; there is a state of confusion as to the actual current published STARs and what is to be expected of the pilots. Unfortunately; the Controller did not issue a speed of 250 KTS to the B757; but did issue a speed of 250 KTS to all aircraft behind the B757. The B757 turned at NOFIV and descended; as instructed; but did not slow to cross NOFIV at 210 KTS (as published). The subsequent Controller noticed; too late; that the B757 did reduce speed; at a point well beyond NOFIV. This indicated to that Controller that the B757 reduced speed on their own and NOT in compliance with any published procedure -- in this case the ERLIN5 RNAV arrival into ATL. The Controller who issued 250 KTS to all subsequent aircraft has been charged with a 'Category B Operational Error; Wake' event. There have been rumors and statements that the speeds on all the RNAV arrivals into ATL have been NOTAMed out or are no longer applicable; when in fact they still remain; more than 5 charting cycles AFTER this facility (A80) has requested their removal. This is clearly unacceptable performance by the FAA and the associated offices responsible to ensure timely aeronautical information. A danger clearly exists.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.