A B767-400 flight crew holding short of taxiway G on H4 at mco was forced to announce on ground cont...

Attributes
ACN	825461
Time
Date	200902
Local Time Of Day	1801-2400
Place
Locale Reference	MCO.Airport
State Reference	FL
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Dusk
Aircraft 1
Make Model Name	B767-400 and 400 ER
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Make Model Name	Airbus Industrie Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	Taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Function	Pilot Not Flying First Officer
Qualification	Flight Crew Air Transport Pilot (ATP)
Experience	Flight Crew Last 90 Days 100 Flight Crew Total 7000 Flight Crew Type 900
Events
Anomaly	Conflict Ground Conflict Critical

Narrative:

We pushed back from the gate on our own. The ramp area is not controlled. We taxied to taxiway H4 and held short of taxiway G and attempted to contact ground control for taxi. We tried several times to make contact; but he was busy with another aircraft. While holding short; a large 4 engine widebody airbus was taxiing south on taxiway G approaching taxiway H4. Neither ground control nor the airbus saw that the right wing on airbus was approaching our cockpit. My captain on ground frequency announced 'ground tell airbus to stop; airbus stop; airbus stop.' his wing was about 50 ft from hitting us when he stopped quickly. I question our position about possibly being over the hold short line at taxiway H4. Either way; we should have held well short of taxiway H4. I know with his large wing span; the wing extends well past the taxiway H4 hold short line. It should be moved back or ground control should have control over the ramp area.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B767-400 flight crew holding short of Taxiway G on H4 at MCO was forced to announce on Ground Control frequency that an oncoming Airbus taxiing on G must stop to avoid a collision.

Narrative: We pushed back from the gate on our own. The ramp area is not controlled. We taxied to Taxiway H4 and held short of Taxiway G and attempted to contact Ground Control for taxi. We tried several times to make contact; but he was busy with another aircraft. While holding short; a large 4 engine widebody Airbus was taxiing south on Taxiway G approaching Taxiway H4. Neither Ground Control nor the Airbus saw that the right wing on Airbus was approaching our cockpit. My Captain on Ground frequency announced 'Ground tell Airbus to stop; Airbus stop; Airbus stop.' His wing was about 50 FT from hitting us when he stopped quickly. I question our position about possibly being over the hold short line at Taxiway H4. Either way; we should have held well short of Taxiway H4. I know with his large wing span; the wing extends well past the Taxiway H4 hold short line. It should be moved back or Ground Control should have control over the ramp area.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A B767-400 flight crew holding short of taxiway G on H4 at mco was forced to announce on ground control frequency that an oncoming airbus taxiing on G must stop to avoid a collision.