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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 820587 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200901 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | ZZZ.Airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | Cruise |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Component | |
| Aircraft Component | Intake Ice System |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | Instructor Pilot Not Flying |
| Qualification | Flight Crew Commercial Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Flight Instructor |
| Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 7300 Flight Crew Type 750 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | Inflight Event / Encounter Weather / Turbulence |
Narrative:
I was working with an instrument student doing air work when we started picking up some rime ice. I decided we had better get on the ground and asked for vectors from approach to the ILS 31. We were at 3;000 ft MSL on the downwind and I asked for a close turn-in because I was a little worried about the ice; although there wasn't much -- maybe 1/2 inch or so. I was told by approach that there was faster airplane ahead of us. It was an rj and had deice and we did not; so I declared an emergency to get in front of him. We then broke into VMC and I asked for the 'contact approach' and went direct to the airport. We landed under VMC and it was VFR at the airport. If I had waited and followed the rj I'm just not sure how much ice we would have gotten. I hated to declare that emergency; but that was the only way I knew to get 'up front.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA-28 instructor pilot declared an emergency in order to receive an immediate approach clearance ahead of an air carrier because his aircraft began collecting ice. The PA-28 did not have de-ice equipment.
Narrative: I was working with an instrument student doing air work when we started picking up some rime ice. I decided we had better get on the ground and asked for vectors from Approach to the ILS 31. We were at 3;000 FT MSL on the downwind and I asked for a close turn-in because I was a little worried about the ice; although there wasn't much -- maybe 1/2 inch or so. I was told by Approach that there was faster airplane ahead of us. It was an RJ and had deice and we did not; so I declared an emergency to get in front of him. We then broke into VMC and I asked for the 'contact approach' and went direct to the airport. We landed under VMC and it was VFR at the airport. If I had waited and followed the RJ I'm just not sure how much ice we would have gotten. I hated to declare that emergency; but that was the only way I knew to get 'up front.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of April 2012 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.