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Air carrier at FL350 is questioned by ZDV controller regarding route; pilot advised route/WX deviation approved by previous controller.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 801600 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200808 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : den.airport |
| State Reference | CO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc tower : bos.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 |
| ASRS Report | 801600 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 258 |
| ASRS Report | 802113 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
While deviating around some thunderstorms; ZDV asked us if we were proceeding direct oma as previously cleared. I responded 'no; deviating around WX.' he said we needed to ask permission to deviate and I advised him we were cleared to deviate from the previous controller/frequency. He then told me we should have gotten a clearance from him; even if the previous controller issued the clearance to deviate. I politely told him the previous controller should have advised him we were deviating. Better coordination between ATC controllers.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR AT FL350 IS QUESTIONED BY ZDV CTLR REGARDING RTE; PLT ADVISED RTE/WX DEVIATION APPROVED BY PREVIOUS CTLR.
Narrative: WHILE DEVIATING AROUND SOME TSTMS; ZDV ASKED US IF WE WERE PROCEEDING DIRECT OMA AS PREVIOUSLY CLRED. I RESPONDED 'NO; DEVIATING AROUND WX.' HE SAID WE NEEDED TO ASK PERMISSION TO DEVIATE AND I ADVISED HIM WE WERE CLRED TO DEVIATE FROM THE PREVIOUS CTLR/FREQ. HE THEN TOLD ME WE SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN A CLRNC FROM HIM; EVEN IF THE PREVIOUS CTLR ISSUED THE CLRNC TO DEVIATE. I POLITELY TOLD HIM THE PREVIOUS CTLR SHOULD HAVE ADVISED HIM WE WERE DEVIATING. BETTER COORD BTWN ATC CTLRS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.