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A B757 pilot comments about a bwi ATIS that is not straightforward. It is confusing for non familiar pilots departing at intersection 28U.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 793650 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200807 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : bwi.airport |
| State Reference | MD |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 110 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 600 |
| ASRS Report | 793650 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : bwi.airport |
Narrative:
Bwi ATIS is poorly written to indicate that all runway 28 departures are from intersection U1. ATIS says 'depg runways 33R; 28.' further down it says 'last 1994 ft of runway 10 clsd.' then ground controller clears us to 'taxi to runway 28; cross runway 22 at C.' ATIS assumes the pilot will realize that the last 1994 ft of runway 10 being closed necessitates a U1 intersection departure from runway 28. Ground assumed we would know to taxi to the U1 intersection of runway 28. There are also NOTAMS about various txwys closed; but it still requires an unfamiliar pilot to put a lot of puzzle pieces together. Recommend changing ATIS to 'depg runway 28u1;' and the portion of closed runway should be referred to as the first 1994 ft of runway 28 when that is the runway being used. Lastly; ground should definitely clear crews to taxi to the correct intersection.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757 PILOT COMMENTS ABOUT A BWI ATIS THAT IS NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT IS CONFUSING FOR NON FAMILIAR PILOTS DEPARTING AT INTXN 28U.
Narrative: BWI ATIS IS POORLY WRITTEN TO INDICATE THAT ALL RWY 28 DEPS ARE FROM INTXN U1. ATIS SAYS 'DEPG RWYS 33R; 28.' FURTHER DOWN IT SAYS 'LAST 1994 FT OF RWY 10 CLSD.' THEN GND CTLR CLRS US TO 'TAXI TO RWY 28; CROSS RWY 22 AT C.' ATIS ASSUMES THE PLT WILL REALIZE THAT THE LAST 1994 FT OF RWY 10 BEING CLOSED NECESSITATES A U1 INTXN DEP FROM RWY 28. GND ASSUMED WE WOULD KNOW TO TAXI TO THE U1 INTXN OF RWY 28. THERE ARE ALSO NOTAMS ABOUT VARIOUS TXWYS CLOSED; BUT IT STILL REQUIRES AN UNFAMILIAR PLT TO PUT A LOT OF PUZZLE PIECES TOGETHER. RECOMMEND CHANGING ATIS TO 'DEPG RWY 28U1;' AND THE PORTION OF CLOSED RWY SHOULD BE REFERRED TO AS THE FIRST 1994 FT OF RWY 28 WHEN THAT IS THE RWY BEING USED. LASTLY; GND SHOULD DEFINITELY CLR CREWS TO TAXI TO THE CORRECT INTXN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.