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An MD80 reports crossing the revue waypoint on the dca eldee arrival low. The flight crew modified the FMS RNAV arrival and deleted a waypoint.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 791834 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200806 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : revue |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 13800 msl bound upper : 15000 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : pct.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival star : eldee |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 791834 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We were flying the eldee 3 arrival to dca. ATC cleared us to cross druzz at 15000 ft. Then he told us to descend via the eldee 3. After druzz; I continued descent to cross pugee at or above 12000 ft. Passing 13800 ft; ATC advised that revue was mandatory at 15000 ft and to stop our descent. I leveled at 13600 ft. After passing revue; we continued descent and I asked ATC to confirm altitude required at pugee. He said 13000 ft. The company note said cross pugee at or above 12000 ft. I told ATC that we were unable to descend via the eldee 3 due to conflicting information. ATC gave altitude assignments for the remainder of the arrival. During cruise; I had modified 5 crossing altitudes according to the air carrier instructions. Either revue was not showing 15000 ft or I accidentally deleted it while modifying the others and missed it during the review.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 REPORTS CROSSING THE REVUE WAYPOINT ON THE DCA ELDEE ARR LOW. THE FLT CREW MODIFIED THE FMS RNAV ARR AND DELETED A WAYPOINT.
Narrative: WE WERE FLYING THE ELDEE 3 ARR TO DCA. ATC CLRED US TO CROSS DRUZZ AT 15000 FT. THEN HE TOLD US TO DSND VIA THE ELDEE 3. AFTER DRUZZ; I CONTINUED DSCNT TO CROSS PUGEE AT OR ABOVE 12000 FT. PASSING 13800 FT; ATC ADVISED THAT REVUE WAS MANDATORY AT 15000 FT AND TO STOP OUR DSCNT. I LEVELED AT 13600 FT. AFTER PASSING REVUE; WE CONTINUED DSCNT AND I ASKED ATC TO CONFIRM ALT REQUIRED AT PUGEE. HE SAID 13000 FT. THE COMPANY NOTE SAID CROSS PUGEE AT OR ABOVE 12000 FT. I TOLD ATC THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO DSND VIA THE ELDEE 3 DUE TO CONFLICTING INFO. ATC GAVE ALT ASSIGNMENTS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE ARR. DURING CRUISE; I HAD MODIFIED 5 XING ALTS ACCORDING TO THE ACR INSTRUCTIONS. EITHER REVUE WAS NOT SHOWING 15000 FT OR I ACCIDENTALLY DELETED IT WHILE MODIFYING THE OTHERS AND MISSED IT DURING THE REVIEW.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.