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|Locale Reference||airport : zzz.airport|
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : first officer|
|Qualification||pilot : multi engine|
pilot : instrument
pilot : cfi
pilot : commercial
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 124|
flight time total : 4846
flight time type : 486
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||none taken : unable|
Flight Crew Human Performance
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
I believe the following situation; while currently legal under the regulations; is not safe and should be changed. I fly with a captain who is flying aircraft under parts 121; 135; and 91 all in the same month. The problem is that he is qualified on and flies 5 different aircraft in the same month. He is currently flying B727's under part 121; lear (20's and 30's); falcon 20's; and king air 200's under part 135 and lastly is training to fly 91 ferry flts in B747's. The dangerous part of this situation is how can 1 person maintain a command knowledge of all these aircraft? Simple -- one cannot. I have flown with him in the B727 on many occasions and in the simulator too. He consistently mixes up aircraft limitations; system; and also during emergency or abnormal sits applies the wrong memory item. One example is when he tries to do the engine failure procedure from a lear in the B727. Another example was today on arrival into ont. I was flying and called for the landing gear to be extended on approach. He said we were too fast at 245 KIAS. I promptly reminded him the gear speed on the B727 was 270 KIAS. The above are just 2 examples of which I have many more of. When a pilot is engaged in flying 121 transport aircraft; the FAA should limit the number of aircraft he can fly outside his primary job for compensation. It is just too dangerous to have people out there working 2 or 3 jobs and trying to fly 5 or more different types of aircraft. The FAA already limits the number of aircraft one can fly for one air carrier to 2; and they even discourage that. That limitations should apply to all flying for compensation. The maximum number of aircraft one can fly for hire at any one time is 2; when one of the aircraft is a transport category aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B727-200 FO BELIEVES HIS CAPTAIN'S COMPETENCE IS COMPROMISED BY WORKING MULTIPLE TRANSPORT EQUIPMENT TYPES WITH DIFFERENT EMPLOYERS.
Narrative: I BELIEVE THE FOLLOWING SIT; WHILE CURRENTLY LEGAL UNDER THE REGS; IS NOT SAFE AND SHOULD BE CHANGED. I FLY WITH A CAPT WHO IS FLYING ACFT UNDER PARTS 121; 135; AND 91 ALL IN THE SAME MONTH. THE PROB IS THAT HE IS QUALIFIED ON AND FLIES 5 DIFFERENT ACFT IN THE SAME MONTH. HE IS CURRENTLY FLYING B727'S UNDER PART 121; LEAR (20'S AND 30'S); FALCON 20'S; AND KING AIR 200'S UNDER PART 135 AND LASTLY IS TRAINING TO FLY 91 FERRY FLTS IN B747'S. THE DANGEROUS PART OF THIS SITUATION IS HOW CAN 1 PERSON MAINTAIN A COMMAND KNOWLEDGE OF ALL THESE ACFT? SIMPLE -- ONE CANNOT. I HAVE FLOWN WITH HIM IN THE B727 ON MANY OCCASIONS AND IN THE SIMULATOR TOO. HE CONSISTENTLY MIXES UP ACFT LIMITATIONS; SYS; AND ALSO DURING EMER OR ABNORMAL SITS APPLIES THE WRONG MEMORY ITEM. ONE EXAMPLE IS WHEN HE TRIES TO DO THE ENG FAILURE PROC FROM A LEAR IN THE B727. ANOTHER EXAMPLE WAS TODAY ON ARR INTO ONT. I WAS FLYING AND CALLED FOR THE LNDG GEAR TO BE EXTENDED ON APCH. HE SAID WE WERE TOO FAST AT 245 KIAS. I PROMPTLY REMINDED HIM THE GEAR SPD ON THE B727 WAS 270 KIAS. THE ABOVE ARE JUST 2 EXAMPLES OF WHICH I HAVE MANY MORE OF. WHEN A PLT IS ENGAGED IN FLYING 121 TRANSPORT ACFT; THE FAA SHOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF ACFT HE CAN FLY OUTSIDE HIS PRIMARY JOB FOR COMPENSATION. IT IS JUST TOO DANGEROUS TO HAVE PEOPLE OUT THERE WORKING 2 OR 3 JOBS AND TRYING TO FLY 5 OR MORE DIFFERENT TYPES OF ACFT. THE FAA ALREADY LIMITS THE NUMBER OF ACFT ONE CAN FLY FOR ONE ACR TO 2; AND THEY EVEN DISCOURAGE THAT. THAT LIMITATIONS SHOULD APPLY TO ALL FLYING FOR COMPENSATION. THE MAX NUMBER OF ACFT ONE CAN FLY FOR HIRE AT ANY ONE TIME IS 2; WHEN ONE OF THE ACFT IS A TRANSPORT CATEGORY ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of May 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.