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Helicopter pilot described tfr incursion in phl area; alleging lack of FSS telephone call response for information as contributory.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 759822 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200710 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : abe.airport |
| State Reference | PA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 1500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : abe.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Bell Helicopter Textron Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 90 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 2100 |
| ASRS Report | 759822 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
After an am flight service call that ended after waiting more than 10 mins; I went on line to find out about WX and NOTAMS. I did not get a notice on a tfr at phl area. I departed at XA30 from our helicopter. Contacted abe approach control and was informed about a tfr problem. In short; if I had gotten through to flight service; I might have been advised about the tfr. Better advising on tfr's is needed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HELI PLT DESCRIBED TFR INCURSION IN PHL AREA; ALLEGING LACK OF FSS TELEPHONE CALL RESPONSE FOR INFO AS CONTRIBUTORY.
Narrative: AFTER AN AM FLT SVC CALL THAT ENDED AFTER WAITING MORE THAN 10 MINS; I WENT ON LINE TO FIND OUT ABOUT WX AND NOTAMS. I DID NOT GET A NOTICE ON A TFR AT PHL AREA. I DEPARTED AT XA30 FROM OUR HELI. CONTACTED ABE APCH CTL AND WAS INFORMED ABOUT A TFR PROB. IN SHORT; IF I HAD GOTTEN THROUGH TO FLT SVC; I MIGHT HAVE BEEN ADVISED ABOUT THE TFR. BETTER ADVISING ON TFR'S IS NEEDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.