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|Local Time Of Day||1801 To 2400|
|Locale Reference||airport : jfk.airport|
|Altitude||msl single value : 600|
|Controlling Facilities||tower : jfk.tower|
|Operator||common carrier : air carrier|
|Make Model Name||Large Transport|
2 Turbojet Eng
|Operating Under FAR Part||Part 121|
|Flight Phase||descent : approach|
landing : go around
|Affiliation||company : air carrier|
|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Anomaly||conflict : airborne less severe|
non adherence : clearance
other spatial deviation
|Independent Detector||other flight crewa|
|Resolutory Action||flight crew : executed go around|
|Problem Areas||ATC Human Performance|
Flight Crew Human Performance
|Primary Problem||Flight Crew Human Performance|
Got the ATIS probably 120 mi out. Said -- as it most does always -- canarsie VOR approachs runway 13L and runway 13R. When we checked in with approach; he very shrewdly said; 'well air carrier X; you missed a couple letters in the ATIS.' but he never mentioned that runway 13L was closed. The first officer read the ATIS again and said nothing has changed but the time; he missed the runway 13L closure; but it was buried deep in the ATIS under the runway 4L and runway 4R closures. I'm sure the approach controller said cleared for the runway 13R approach but never said 13L was closed. Oh yeah; keep your speed 200 KTS to canarsie; this really complicates things; you're 200 KTS 4 mi from the airport; it's XA00; and the runway you always land on is closed; but the runway lights are full bright and the flashers are on; but no lead-in lights. Anyway; tower said 'air carrier X; the right side; not the left.' we were too high and too close in to safely make an approach. We declared a missed approach; came back around; landed safely on runway 13R.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR PILOT MISSED THE JFK ATIS REMARK ABOUT A RWY 13L CLOSURE BECAUSE IT WAS MIXED WITH A LONG ATIS MSG. ACFT SET UP TO LAND RWY 13L BEFORE A GAR.
Narrative: GOT THE ATIS PROBABLY 120 MI OUT. SAID -- AS IT MOST DOES ALWAYS -- CANARSIE VOR APCHS RWY 13L AND RWY 13R. WHEN WE CHKED IN WITH APCH; HE VERY SHREWDLY SAID; 'WELL ACR X; YOU MISSED A COUPLE LETTERS IN THE ATIS.' BUT HE NEVER MENTIONED THAT RWY 13L WAS CLOSED. THE FO READ THE ATIS AGAIN AND SAID NOTHING HAS CHANGED BUT THE TIME; HE MISSED THE RWY 13L CLOSURE; BUT IT WAS BURIED DEEP IN THE ATIS UNDER THE RWY 4L AND RWY 4R CLOSURES. I'M SURE THE APCH CTLR SAID CLRED FOR THE RWY 13R APCH BUT NEVER SAID 13L WAS CLOSED. OH YEAH; KEEP YOUR SPD 200 KTS TO CANARSIE; THIS REALLY COMPLICATES THINGS; YOU'RE 200 KTS 4 MI FROM THE ARPT; IT'S XA00; AND THE RWY YOU ALWAYS LAND ON IS CLOSED; BUT THE RWY LIGHTS ARE FULL BRIGHT AND THE FLASHERS ARE ON; BUT NO LEAD-IN LIGHTS. ANYWAY; TWR SAID 'ACR X; THE R SIDE; NOT THE L.' WE WERE TOO HIGH AND TOO CLOSE IN TO SAFELY MAKE AN APCH. WE DECLARED A MISSED APCH; CAME BACK AROUND; LANDED SAFELY ON RWY 13R.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.