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A B757-200 pilot reports that a brazilian controller issued a clearance limit just inside colombian airspace with improper clearance instructions; and that the practice is widespread.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 744399 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200706 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : artik |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | msl single value : 36000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : sbmu.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| ASRS Report | 744399 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
En route from santa cruz; bolivia; to ZZZ; we transited amazonica airspace (formerly manaus); an en route sector in brazilian airspace. While in amazonica airspace; the brazilian controllers issued us a 'clearance limit' of iroti intersection. Iroti intersection happens to lie well within the borders of the next neighboring country: colombia. Amazonica gave us nothing other than the clearance limit itself -- no efc; no instructions in the event of lost comm; no idea of what to expect -- nothing other than the limit itself. They were apparently issuing clearance limits like this to all traffic over the amazon basin. After we reached the fir and were handed off to colombian ATC; we asked bogota to clear us to destination. They did so.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 PILOT REPORTS THAT A BRAZILIAN CONTROLLER ISSUED A CLEARANCE LIMIT JUST INSIDE COLOMBIAN AIRSPACE WITH IMPROPER CLEARANCE INSTRUCTIONS; AND THAT THE PRACTICE IS WIDESPREAD.
Narrative: ENRTE FROM SANTA CRUZ; BOLIVIA; TO ZZZ; WE TRANSITED AMAZONICA AIRSPACE (FORMERLY MANAUS); AN ENRTE SECTOR IN BRAZILIAN AIRSPACE. WHILE IN AMAZONICA AIRSPACE; THE BRAZILIAN CTLRS ISSUED US A 'CLRNC LIMIT' OF IROTI INTXN. IROTI INTXN HAPPENS TO LIE WELL WITHIN THE BORDERS OF THE NEXT NEIGHBORING COUNTRY: COLOMBIA. AMAZONICA GAVE US NOTHING OTHER THAN THE CLRNC LIMIT ITSELF -- NO EFC; NO INSTRUCTIONS IN THE EVENT OF LOST COMM; NO IDEA OF WHAT TO EXPECT -- NOTHING OTHER THAN THE LIMIT ITSELF. THEY WERE APPARENTLY ISSUING CLRNC LIMITS LIKE THIS TO ALL TFC OVER THE AMAZON BASIN. AFTER WE REACHED THE FIR AND WERE HANDED OFF TO COLOMBIAN ATC; WE ASKED BOGOTA TO CLEAR US TO DESTINATION. THEY DID SO.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.