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MD88 first officer believes hold short lines for runways 6C and 6R at cle need better identifier signs due to close proximity.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 740526 |
| Time | |
| Date | 2007058 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lfmn.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-88 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3300 flight time type : 250 |
| ASRS Report | 740526 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 207 flight time total : 10500 flight time type : 5470 |
| ASRS Report | 739723 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Airport Chart Or Publication |
| Primary Problem | Airport |
| Situations | |
| Airport | markings : cle.airport signage : cle.airport |
Narrative:
ATIS information identified runway 6R for departures ground instructed us to taxi to runway 6C and to obtain new ATIS information which was then current. Crew had briefed taxi to runway 6R prior to pushback; but given short taxi and need to finish checklist and start second engine; we did not have time to brief taxi to runway 6C. Hold short area for runway 6C is very confusing as there are two hold short lines within 25 feet that face opposite directions. The first line is for runway 6C; but is not well painted. The second is for runway 6R and had fresh coat of paint. The captain appeared to be taxiing too fast to stop at the first line and was unable to stop safely at the proper line once he realized its location. I recommend a large; lighted sign be placed that clearly designates the first hold short line as that for runway 6C. Opposite direction hold short lines in such short proximity are not common in my experience.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD88 FO BELIEVES HOLD SHORT LINES FOR RWYS 6C AND 6R AT CLE NEED BETTER IDENTIFIER SIGNS DUE TO CLOSE PROXIMITY.
Narrative: ATIS INFO IDENTIFIED RWY 6R FOR DEPARTURES GND INSTRUCTED US TO TAXI TO RWY 6C AND TO OBTAIN NEW ATIS INFO WHICH WAS THEN CURRENT. CREW HAD BRIEFED TAXI TO RWY 6R PRIOR TO PUSHBACK; BUT GIVEN SHORT TAXI AND NEED TO FINISH CHKLIST AND START SECOND ENGINE; WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO BRIEF TAXI TO RWY 6C. HOLD SHORT AREA FOR RWY 6C IS VERY CONFUSING AS THERE ARE TWO HOLD SHORT LINES WITHIN 25 FEET THAT FACE OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS. THE FIRST LINE IS FOR RWY 6C; BUT IS NOT WELL PAINTED. THE SECOND IS FOR RWY 6R AND HAD FRESH COAT OF PAINT. THE CAPT APPEARED TO BE TAXIING TOO FAST TO STOP AT THE FIRST LINE AND WAS UNABLE TO STOP SAFELY AT THE PROPER LINE ONCE HE REALIZED ITS LOCATION. I RECOMMEND A LARGE; LIGHTED SIGN BE PLACED THAT CLEARLY DESIGNATES THE FIRST HOLD SHORT LINE AS THAT FOR RWY 6C. OPPOSITE DIRECTION HOLD SHORT LINES IN SUCH SHORT PROXIMITY ARE NOT COMMON IN MY EXPERIENCE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.