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|Function||flight crew : captain|
oversight : pic
|Experience||flight time last 90 days : 10|
flight time total : 15000
flight time type : 57
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Flight Crew Human Performance
After having engine #4 blow up at V1 on departure; we return engine out. 1 hour later; we are told by flight operations duty manager and local mgrs on site to fly reassigned trip. This trip would leave next day. We are far from being done with paperwork; communications and matters surrounding this blown up engine. End of 'real' duty time is far away. Also; in order to do proper flight planning that I need to depart early; I need to leave hotel before security opens. Could not imagine a restful night either. Additionally; the new assignment requires us to fly for 13 hours 32 mins departing early; landing late; and then rest for 10 hours 14 mins; then depart and fly scheduled at 13 hours 16 mins. Refused assignment despite management telling us 'the company is really short on pilots; we need you to fly.' I fail to see this as a valid reason to schedule unsafe flight operations via improper rest. Unable to comply with FAA act of 1958 and far 121 which demands that the far 121 ATP PIC demonstrate 'extraordinary care.' fiscal problems with proper staffing is not something I can find in the far's that allows my ATP license to conduct something less than 'extraordinary care.' cannot see how this assignment complies with far 21.485 and safe judgement I am charged with demonstrating.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B747-400 FLT CREW REFUSES INTERNATIONAL REASSIGNMENT FOLLOWING AN ENGINE FAILURE EMERGENCY ON THE ORIGINAL FLT. CITE FATIGUE AND VIOLATION OF FARS.
Narrative: AFTER HAVING ENG #4 BLOW UP AT V1 ON DEP; WE RETURN ENG OUT. 1 HR LATER; WE ARE TOLD BY FLT OPS DUTY MGR AND LCL MGRS ON SITE TO FLY REASSIGNED TRIP. THIS TRIP WOULD LEAVE NEXT DAY. WE ARE FAR FROM BEING DONE WITH PAPERWORK; COMS AND MATTERS SURROUNDING THIS BLOWN UP ENG. END OF 'REAL' DUTY TIME IS FAR AWAY. ALSO; IN ORDER TO DO PROPER FLT PLANNING THAT I NEED TO DEPART EARLY; I NEED TO LEAVE HOTEL BEFORE SECURITY OPENS. COULD NOT IMAGINE A RESTFUL NIGHT EITHER. ADDITIONALLY; THE NEW ASSIGNMENT REQUIRES US TO FLY FOR 13 HRS 32 MINS DEPARTING EARLY; LNDG LATE; AND THEN REST FOR 10 HRS 14 MINS; THEN DEPART AND FLY SCHEDULED AT 13 HRS 16 MINS. REFUSED ASSIGNMENT DESPITE MGMNT TELLING US 'THE COMPANY IS REALLY SHORT ON PLTS; WE NEED YOU TO FLY.' I FAIL TO SEE THIS AS A VALID REASON TO SCHEDULE UNSAFE FLT OPS VIA IMPROPER REST. UNABLE TO COMPLY WITH FAA ACT OF 1958 AND FAR 121 WHICH DEMANDS THAT THE FAR 121 ATP PIC DEMONSTRATE 'EXTRAORDINARY CARE.' FISCAL PROBS WITH PROPER STAFFING IS NOT SOMETHING I CAN FIND IN THE FAR'S THAT ALLOWS MY ATP LICENSE TO CONDUCT SOMETHING LESS THAN 'EXTRAORDINARY CARE.' CANNOT SEE HOW THIS ASSIGNMENT COMPLIES WITH FAR 21.485 AND SAFE JUDGEMENT I AM CHARGED WITH DEMONSTRATING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.