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An MD87 crew reports a near miss with a cessna approaching an airport with controller training in progress. Other aircraft did not appear on their TCAS.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 738533 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200705 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-87 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 175 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 738533 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 500 |
| ASRS Report | 738041 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Cleared for visual approach runway 9R in ZZZ; and was told to contact tower. We were 9 mi southwest of ZZZ level at 3000 ft MSL northbound for base leg. When I looked down; I heard the first officer yell and looked up to see us overtaking a cessna. We were not told of traffic; and our TCAS had no aircraft around us. There was no time for evasive maneuvers. We then told approach that we almost hit an aircraft. There was training going on at approach control at the time. We then landed uneventfully. WX was 10 SM and skc at ZZZ. We were told on the ground that the other aircraft called us in sight. I believe that we should have been notified of the traffic. I don't believe we were on the same frequency as the cessna.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD87 CREW REPORTS A NEAR MISS WITH A CESSNA APPROACHING AN ARPT WITH CONTROLLER TRAINING IN PROGRESS. OTHER ACFT DID NOT APPEAR ON THEIR TCAS.
Narrative: CLRED FOR VISUAL APCH RWY 9R IN ZZZ; AND WAS TOLD TO CONTACT TWR. WE WERE 9 MI SW OF ZZZ LEVEL AT 3000 FT MSL NBOUND FOR BASE LEG. WHEN I LOOKED DOWN; I HEARD THE FO YELL AND LOOKED UP TO SEE US OVERTAKING A CESSNA. WE WERE NOT TOLD OF TFC; AND OUR TCAS HAD NO ACFT AROUND US. THERE WAS NO TIME FOR EVASIVE MANEUVERS. WE THEN TOLD APCH THAT WE ALMOST HIT AN ACFT. THERE WAS TRAINING GOING ON AT APCH CTL AT THE TIME. WE THEN LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. WX WAS 10 SM AND SKC AT ZZZ. WE WERE TOLD ON THE GND THAT THE OTHER ACFT CALLED US IN SIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NOTIFIED OF THE TFC. I DON'T BELIEVE WE WERE ON THE SAME FREQ AS THE CESSNA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.