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Asked by the pilot to steer the C421 after landing; low time pilot in the right seat is unable to remain on the runway.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 736296 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200704 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lot.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Golden Eagle 421 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Function | observation : passenger |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 560 flight time type : 0 |
| ASRS Report | 736296 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical ground encounters other other anomaly other anomaly non adherence other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : 1 |
| Resolutory Action | aircraft : evacuated |
| Consequence | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Passenger Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
I was on a trip/vacation with some friends; coming home. Upon landing; the aircraft left the runway. On the way home I was running the radios sitting in the right seat. We were talking to chicago approach and canceled about 10 mi out and went VFR from there. The winds were out of the west so the pilot entered for a left base to final for runway 27. The airplane touched down about 1000 ft down the runway with over 4000 ft left to stop. Upon slowing down; the pilot asked if I wanted to taxi the airplane back to the ramp. I started to use the brakes and noticed the airplane wanted to go to the right; and I said something wasn't right with the airplane. This whole time the pilot was watching and using the rudder pedals with me. As we were veering to the right we both said there is no left rudder or brake. I removed my feet from the pedals and a few seconds later we were off the runway. The pilot tried to stop the airplane with the right brake and caused the airplane to skid off the runway to the right. Upon reaching the runway edge; the nosewheel collapsed and we stopped. The total time of this was maybe 10 seconds. After this he instructed all of us to get off the airplane. After safely getting off the airplane a mechanic found that there was no left brake pressure. Looking back at the situation a better solution would be to not let other taxi an unfamiliar airplane. Possible preflight inspection; of brake fluid leaks? Testing brake pressure when gear is in down position. If all happened over again going straight off the runway would be a better choice instead of trying to side-load the aircraft and stop with 1 brake. I think if the pilot went straight ahead the airplane would have stopped in the grass with very minimal damage. In the future asking someone to taxi an unfamiliar aircraft on the active runway would also not be a good idea. If knowing there was no brake pressure in the left; another solution would be to go to an airport with a longer runway; and possibly use a slower approach speed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ASKED BY THE PLT TO STEER THE C421 AFTER LANDING; LOW TIME PLT IN THE RIGHT SEAT IS UNABLE TO REMAIN ON THE RWY.
Narrative: I WAS ON A TRIP/VACATION WITH SOME FRIENDS; COMING HOME. UPON LNDG; THE ACFT LEFT THE RWY. ON THE WAY HOME I WAS RUNNING THE RADIOS SITTING IN THE R SEAT. WE WERE TALKING TO CHICAGO APCH AND CANCELED ABOUT 10 MI OUT AND WENT VFR FROM THERE. THE WINDS WERE OUT OF THE W SO THE PLT ENTERED FOR A L BASE TO FINAL FOR RWY 27. THE AIRPLANE TOUCHED DOWN ABOUT 1000 FT DOWN THE RWY WITH OVER 4000 FT LEFT TO STOP. UPON SLOWING DOWN; THE PLT ASKED IF I WANTED TO TAXI THE AIRPLANE BACK TO THE RAMP. I STARTED TO USE THE BRAKES AND NOTICED THE AIRPLANE WANTED TO GO TO THE R; AND I SAID SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT WITH THE AIRPLANE. THIS WHOLE TIME THE PLT WAS WATCHING AND USING THE RUDDER PEDALS WITH ME. AS WE WERE VEERING TO THE R WE BOTH SAID THERE IS NO L RUDDER OR BRAKE. I REMOVED MY FEET FROM THE PEDALS AND A FEW SECONDS LATER WE WERE OFF THE RWY. THE PLT TRIED TO STOP THE AIRPLANE WITH THE R BRAKE AND CAUSED THE AIRPLANE TO SKID OFF THE RWY TO THE R. UPON REACHING THE RWY EDGE; THE NOSEWHEEL COLLAPSED AND WE STOPPED. THE TOTAL TIME OF THIS WAS MAYBE 10 SECONDS. AFTER THIS HE INSTRUCTED ALL OF US TO GET OFF THE AIRPLANE. AFTER SAFELY GETTING OFF THE AIRPLANE A MECH FOUND THAT THERE WAS NO L BRAKE PRESSURE. LOOKING BACK AT THE SITUATION A BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE TO NOT LET OTHER TAXI AN UNFAMILIAR AIRPLANE. POSSIBLE PREFLT INSPECTION; OF BRAKE FLUID LEAKS? TESTING BRAKE PRESSURE WHEN GEAR IS IN DOWN POS. IF ALL HAPPENED OVER AGAIN GOING STRAIGHT OFF THE RWY WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE INSTEAD OF TRYING TO SIDE-LOAD THE ACFT AND STOP WITH 1 BRAKE. I THINK IF THE PLT WENT STRAIGHT AHEAD THE AIRPLANE WOULD HAVE STOPPED IN THE GRASS WITH VERY MINIMAL DAMAGE. IN THE FUTURE ASKING SOMEONE TO TAXI AN UNFAMILIAR ACFT ON THE ACTIVE RWY WOULD ALSO NOT BE A GOOD IDEA. IF KNOWING THERE WAS NO BRAKE PRESSURE IN THE L; ANOTHER SOLUTION WOULD BE TO GO TO AN ARPT WITH A LONGER RWY; AND POSSIBLY USE A SLOWER APCH SPD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.