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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 735188 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200704 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : tul.vortac |
| State Reference | OK |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 1370 msl bound upper : 1420 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Rain |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : tul.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 735188 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
While being vectored around for approach to ILS runway 36R at tul; we received the new ATIS that indicated using GPS 36. We had no plates for that and after asking approach about it; he stated that the ILS was OTS. We then decided on VOR DME runway 8. Set it up; briefed it and was cleared at that time. The approach has a stepdown point to cross at or above 1420 ft MSL at 7.5. I had descended to 1370 ft at about 8.2 and immediately corrected to 1420 ft. However; ATC gave us a low altitude alert. We continued the approach and landed normally. In this case the 700-800 FPM from FAF was too steep and I would have shallowed it out more.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FOLLOWING A LATE RWY AND APCH PROCEDURE CHANGE A MD80 DESCENDED BELOW A STEP DOWN FIX EARLY ON THE TUL RWY 8 VOR DME APCH.
Narrative: WHILE BEING VECTORED AROUND FOR APCH TO ILS RWY 36R AT TUL; WE RECEIVED THE NEW ATIS THAT INDICATED USING GPS 36. WE HAD NO PLATES FOR THAT AND AFTER ASKING APCH ABOUT IT; HE STATED THAT THE ILS WAS OTS. WE THEN DECIDED ON VOR DME RWY 8. SET IT UP; BRIEFED IT AND WAS CLRED AT THAT TIME. THE APCH HAS A STEPDOWN POINT TO CROSS AT OR ABOVE 1420 FT MSL AT 7.5. I HAD DSNDED TO 1370 FT AT ABOUT 8.2 AND IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED TO 1420 FT. HOWEVER; ATC GAVE US A LOW ALT ALERT. WE CONTINUED THE APCH AND LANDED NORMALLY. IN THIS CASE THE 700-800 FPM FROM FAF WAS TOO STEEP AND I WOULD HAVE SHALLOWED IT OUT MORE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.