B737-500 flight crew departure with incorrect weight and balance figures.

Attributes
ACN	733131
Time
Date	200703
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : den.airport
State Reference	CO
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : den.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	B737-500
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	descent : approach
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 900
ASRS Report	733131
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far
Independent Detector	other flight crewa other flight crewb
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Company
Primary Problem	Company

Narrative:

Takeoff with incorrect final weights. Normal pushback; engine start; and taxi out. Approaching the runway we had no final weights so tower directed us to taxi across the runway to the hold pad and let them know when we were ready. Load planning told us they were awaiting the final closeout from ramp. We got the weights a couple mins later and departed normally to den. On approach to den my copilot told me that we had just received final weights again (this is about 2 hours after departure) on the ACARS printer. We decided to discuss it on the ground. On taxi in we received another message from load planning. It said; 'ramp just discovered 30 of your bags still sitting on the ramp.' the new weight manifest showed about 900 pounds lighter (no bags) and a 0.3 shift forward of the mac. I discussed this with my dispatcher who was aware of this only because she sees all ACARS msgs going to my airplane. Load planning had not called her to discuss the discrepancy.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: B737-500 FLT CREW DEP WITH INCORRECT WT AND BAL FIGURES.

Narrative: TAKEOFF WITH INCORRECT FINAL WTS. NORMAL PUSHBACK; ENGINE START; AND TAXI OUT. APCHING THE RWY WE HAD NO FINAL WTS SO TWR DIRECTED US TO TAXI ACROSS THE RWY TO THE HOLD PAD AND LET THEM KNOW WHEN WE WERE READY. LOAD PLANNING TOLD US THEY WERE AWAITING THE FINAL CLOSEOUT FROM RAMP. WE GOT THE WTS A COUPLE MINS LATER AND DEPARTED NORMALLY TO DEN. ON APCH TO DEN MY COPLT TOLD ME THAT WE HAD JUST RECEIVED FINAL WTS AGAIN (THIS IS ABOUT 2 HRS AFTER DEP) ON THE ACARS PRINTER. WE DECIDED TO DISCUSS IT ON THE GND. ON TAXI IN WE RECEIVED ANOTHER MSG FROM LOAD PLANNING. IT SAID; 'RAMP JUST DISCOVERED 30 OF YOUR BAGS STILL SITTING ON THE RAMP.' THE NEW WT MANIFEST SHOWED ABOUT 900 LBS LIGHTER (NO BAGS) AND A 0.3 SHIFT FORWARD OF THE MAC. I DISCUSSED THIS WITH MY DISPATCHER WHO WAS AWARE OF THIS ONLY BECAUSE SHE SEES ALL ACARS MSGS GOING TO MY AIRPLANE. LOAD PLANNING HAD NOT CALLED HER TO DISCUSS THE DISCREPANCY.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.