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B757 flight crew has a close-in runway change issued and has a tracking/heading deviation during the civet 5 arrival to lax.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 731858 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200703 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 16000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Dusk |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon tower : zzz.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Route In Use | arrival star : civet |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| ASRS Report | 731858 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended or assigned course |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descending into lax via the civet 5 arrival; ATC changed runways just prior to rustt. We changed the arrival/runway in the FMS; but arrived at rustt in the transition before the new arrival/runway had been executed and updated to our actual location on the STAR. We overshot the turn at rustt; but corrected promptly. In retrospect we should have left the old arrival in the FMS until beyond the turn at rustt; since both of the arrivals are the same until civet. Then; after the turn; we could have changed the arrival/runway with much less confusion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW HAS A CLOSE-IN RWY CHANGE ISSUED AND HAS A TRACKING/HDG DEV DURING THE CIVET 5 ARR TO LAX.
Narrative: DESCENDING INTO LAX VIA THE CIVET 5 ARR; ATC CHANGED RWYS JUST PRIOR TO RUSTT. WE CHANGED THE ARR/RWY IN THE FMS; BUT ARRIVED AT RUSTT IN THE TRANSITION BEFORE THE NEW ARR/RWY HAD BEEN EXECUTED AND UPDATED TO OUR ACTUAL LOCATION ON THE STAR. WE OVERSHOT THE TURN AT RUSTT; BUT CORRECTED PROMPTLY. IN RETROSPECT WE SHOULD HAVE LEFT THE OLD ARR IN THE FMS UNTIL BEYOND THE TURN AT RUSTT; SINCE BOTH OF THE ARRIVALS ARE THE SAME UNTIL CIVET. THEN; AFTER THE TURN; WE COULD HAVE CHANGED THE ARR/RWY WITH MUCH LESS CONFUSION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.