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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 718903 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200611 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : unvil |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Falcon 2000 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 19 other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 50 |
| ASRS Report | 718903 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : gpws other controllera other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were given a vector and cleared by ATC to descend from 4000 ft to 2000 ft. We noted that the MSA was 2900 ft; but figured the MVA was lower. We complied with the instruction. Just as we were descending through 2500 ft and we noticed a hill up ahead approaching along with the aid of enhanced GPWS the controller told the flight crew to climb; climb; climb to 3000 ft. We did immediately read back the climb clearance to 3000 ft and stated that we were cleared to 2000 ft. No response from the controller; and noticed a new controller was now working the frequency. I suspect controller overload; lack of knowing what the MVA was in that sector (perhaps could be added to plates). Thanks to controller awareness; enhanced GPWS; and crew alertness stopped a possible disaster.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FALCON 2000 FLT CREW HAS A EGPWS INCIDENT ON APCH TO TEB.
Narrative: WE WERE GIVEN A VECTOR AND CLRED BY ATC TO DSND FROM 4000 FT TO 2000 FT. WE NOTED THAT THE MSA WAS 2900 FT; BUT FIGURED THE MVA WAS LOWER. WE COMPLIED WITH THE INSTRUCTION. JUST AS WE WERE DSNDING THROUGH 2500 FT AND WE NOTICED A HILL UP AHEAD APCHING ALONG WITH THE AID OF ENHANCED GPWS THE CTLR TOLD THE FLT CREW TO CLB; CLB; CLB TO 3000 FT. WE DID IMMEDIATELY READ BACK THE CLB CLRNC TO 3000 FT AND STATED THAT WE WERE CLRED TO 2000 FT. NO RESPONSE FROM THE CTLR; AND NOTICED A NEW CTLR WAS NOW WORKING THE FREQ. I SUSPECT CTLR OVERLOAD; LACK OF KNOWING WHAT THE MVA WAS IN THAT SECTOR (PERHAPS COULD BE ADDED TO PLATES). THANKS TO CTLR AWARENESS; ENHANCED GPWS; AND CREW ALERTNESS STOPPED A POSSIBLE DISASTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.