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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 718322 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200611 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : sna.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 3000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : las.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : private pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 718322 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying into sna when I was told to intercept the 363 degree radial off of pomona. I couldn't get it into the garmin 430 and had to be vectored to it. I realize this doesn't constitute the need for this report; but thought it might be helpful. I had purchased the garmin about 4 months before. I had practiced on it numerous times in VFR conditions. I had spent many; many hours working it. However; when this last min direction was given to me; I fiddled too long with the garmin. I should have just tuned it in on the old VOR system I had in the airplane. Although; I had spent about 15 hours or more in VFR conditions; learning the system; I guess when in IFR and thrown something at the last min; it caused problems. The remedy would have been to go to the old system. It didn't cause any problems and ATC didn't even mention it to me; but I feel as though I should have been able to find the radial without being vectored to it. I have since spent more time with the system practicing the above.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PA28 PLT HAS A TRACK AND HDG DEV DURING CRUISE.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING INTO SNA WHEN I WAS TOLD TO INTERCEPT THE 363 DEG RADIAL OFF OF POMONA. I COULDN'T GET IT INTO THE GARMIN 430 AND HAD TO BE VECTORED TO IT. I REALIZE THIS DOESN'T CONSTITUTE THE NEED FOR THIS RPT; BUT THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. I HAD PURCHASED THE GARMIN ABOUT 4 MONTHS BEFORE. I HAD PRACTICED ON IT NUMEROUS TIMES IN VFR CONDITIONS. I HAD SPENT MANY; MANY HRS WORKING IT. HOWEVER; WHEN THIS LAST MIN DIRECTION WAS GIVEN TO ME; I FIDDLED TOO LONG WITH THE GARMIN. I SHOULD HAVE JUST TUNED IT IN ON THE OLD VOR SYS I HAD IN THE AIRPLANE. ALTHOUGH; I HAD SPENT ABOUT 15 HRS OR MORE IN VFR CONDITIONS; LEARNING THE SYS; I GUESS WHEN IN IFR AND THROWN SOMETHING AT THE LAST MIN; IT CAUSED PROBS. THE REMEDY WOULD HAVE BEEN TO GO TO THE OLD SYS. IT DIDN'T CAUSE ANY PROBS AND ATC DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IT TO ME; BUT I FEEL AS THOUGH I SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE RADIAL WITHOUT BEING VECTORED TO IT. I HAVE SINCE SPENT MORE TIME WITH THE SYS PRACTICING THE ABOVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.