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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 716351 | 
| Time | |
| Date | 200610 | 
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 | 
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : apc.airport | 
| State Reference | CA | 
| Altitude | agl single value : 300 | 
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC | 
| Light | Daylight | 
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : apc.tower tower : cyul.tower  | 
| Operator | general aviation : corporate | 
| Make Model Name | Bell Helicopter Textron Undifferentiated or Other Model | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 | 
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff | 
| Flight Plan | None | 
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : apc.tower | 
| Operator | general aviation : personal | 
| Make Model Name | Cessna Aircraft Undifferentiated or Other Model | 
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 | 
| Flight Phase | descent : approach | 
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate | 
| Function | flight crew : single pilot | 
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp  | 
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 7600 flight time type : 275  | 
| ASRS Report | 716351 | 
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other | 
| Function | flight crew : single pilot | 
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : required legal separation other spatial deviation  | 
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa  | 
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time | 
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 300  | 
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance  | 
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous | 
Narrative:
While departing apc in a helicopter; I was given a clearance to depart as requested with no TA's. The clearance was to depart off taxiway a; with an eastbound turnout. While flying over the runway numbers of runway 24; I noticed a small cessna touching down directly below me. I was not told about the traffic before that point. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the bell pilot believes that he adhered to his clearance. No TA's were given and no instructions to avoid overflying runway 24. The controller became verbally abusive and a shouting match ensued; which didn't answer any questions about why this incident occurred.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BELL DEPARTING APC HAS MISCOM WITH TWR CTLR; AND OVERFLIES LNDG ACFT.
Narrative: WHILE DEPARTING APC IN A HELI; I WAS GIVEN A CLRNC TO DEPART AS REQUESTED WITH NO TA'S. THE CLRNC WAS TO DEPART OFF TXWY A; WITH AN EBOUND TURNOUT. WHILE FLYING OVER THE RWY NUMBERS OF RWY 24; I NOTICED A SMALL CESSNA TOUCHING DOWN DIRECTLY BELOW ME. I WAS NOT TOLD ABOUT THE TFC BEFORE THAT POINT. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE BELL PLT BELIEVES THAT HE ADHERED TO HIS CLRNC. NO TA'S WERE GIVEN AND NO INSTRUCTIONS TO AVOID OVERFLYING RWY 24. THE CTLR BECAME VERBALLY ABUSIVE AND A SHOUTING MATCH ENSUED; WHICH DIDN'T ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.