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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 715414 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200611 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
| State Reference | US |
| Altitude | msl single value : 5000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | AS 350 Astar/Ecureuil |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
| Operator | other |
| Make Model Name | Talon |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 45 flight time total : 6800 flight time type : 4795 |
| ASRS Report | 715414 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : corporate |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 250 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
After contact with and radar identify by the local military base class C approach control; I began a series of flight test maneuvers for airworthiness certification of a helicopter. This is a busy time for the approach controller as many of the returning military flight training aircraft have increased the controller workload substantially. As my aircraft was northbound in class D airspace between 2 MOA's and in a descent in preparation for the next flight test point; a T-38 approached from the west (directly from the sun) on an eastbound course. If the controller warned me of the approaching aircraft at my 9 O'clock position; I did not hear the call. My flight test engineer looked out his window (left side of the aircraft) and promptly alerted me to the rapidly approaching traffic. I leveled the aircraft off in time to see the T-38 pass directly beneath my aircraft and some 200-300 ft below me. I then heard the controller tell the T-38 that he had helicopter traffic directly above him. I do not believe the T-38 pilots ever saw my aircraft. I see the basic premise of see and avoid must not be forgotten.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN AS350 EXPERIENCED AN NMAC WITH A T-38.
Narrative: AFTER CONTACT WITH AND RADAR IDENT BY THE LCL MIL BASE CLASS C APCH CTL; I BEGAN A SERIES OF FLT TEST MANEUVERS FOR AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATION OF A HELI. THIS IS A BUSY TIME FOR THE APCH CTLR AS MANY OF THE RETURNING MIL FLT TRAINING ACFT HAVE INCREASED THE CTLR WORKLOAD SUBSTANTIALLY. AS MY ACFT WAS NBOUND IN CLASS D AIRSPACE BTWN 2 MOA'S AND IN A DSCNT IN PREPARATION FOR THE NEXT FLT TEST POINT; A T-38 APCHED FROM THE W (DIRECTLY FROM THE SUN) ON AN EBOUND COURSE. IF THE CTLR WARNED ME OF THE APCHING ACFT AT MY 9 O'CLOCK POS; I DID NOT HEAR THE CALL. MY FLT TEST ENGINEER LOOKED OUT HIS WINDOW (L SIDE OF THE ACFT) AND PROMPTLY ALERTED ME TO THE RAPIDLY APCHING TFC. I LEVELED THE ACFT OFF IN TIME TO SEE THE T-38 PASS DIRECTLY BENEATH MY ACFT AND SOME 200-300 FT BELOW ME. I THEN HEARD THE CTLR TELL THE T-38 THAT HE HAD HELI TFC DIRECTLY ABOVE HIM. I DO NOT BELIEVE THE T-38 PLTS EVER SAW MY ACFT. I SEE THE BASIC PREMISE OF SEE AND AVOID MUST NOT BE FORGOTTEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.