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Pilot flying into cys reports ATIS contains no meaningful information; saying only current conditions would be given on approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 714113 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200610 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : cys.tracon |
| State Reference | WY |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cys.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Brasilia EMB-120 All Series |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4400 flight time type : 1900 |
| ASRS Report | 714113 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Facility ATC Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Situations | |
| Airport | procedure or policy : cys.airport |
Narrative:
About 50 mi to the south of the cheyenne; wy; airport; I was trying to pick up the ATIS broadcast before talking to cheyenne approach. Upon hearing it all it says is; 'due to rapidly changing conditions; current conditions will be issued on initial call to approach.' the current WX at the time was about a 1500 ft ceiling and visibility greater than 6 mi. There had been some snow earlier in the day. By not giving us the current WX ahead of time it does not give us adequate time to figure out which approach we can plan on doing and time to brief it. We were able to brief the approach but had to request delay vectors in order to do so. Also by not giving any WX at all it does not even let us know if we have the WX to start the approach. I would recommend that they give us some WX on the ATIS broadcast even if the WX is a few mins old. This would at least give us an idea what the winds and visibility are and give us time to figure out what approach we can plan on. I feel that this current practice that they have could lead to problems.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PLT FLYING INTO CYS RPTS ATIS CONTAINS NO MEANINGFUL INFO; SAYING ONLY CURRENT CONDITIONS WOULD BE GIVEN ON APCH.
Narrative: ABOUT 50 MI TO THE S OF THE CHEYENNE; WY; ARPT; I WAS TRYING TO PICK UP THE ATIS BROADCAST BEFORE TALKING TO CHEYENNE APCH. UPON HEARING IT ALL IT SAYS IS; 'DUE TO RAPIDLY CHANGING CONDITIONS; CURRENT CONDITIONS WILL BE ISSUED ON INITIAL CALL TO APCH.' THE CURRENT WX AT THE TIME WAS ABOUT A 1500 FT CEILING AND VISIBILITY GREATER THAN 6 MI. THERE HAD BEEN SOME SNOW EARLIER IN THE DAY. BY NOT GIVING US THE CURRENT WX AHEAD OF TIME IT DOES NOT GIVE US ADEQUATE TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHICH APCH WE CAN PLAN ON DOING AND TIME TO BRIEF IT. WE WERE ABLE TO BRIEF THE APCH BUT HAD TO REQUEST DELAY VECTORS IN ORDER TO DO SO. ALSO BY NOT GIVING ANY WX AT ALL IT DOES NOT EVEN LET US KNOW IF WE HAVE THE WX TO START THE APCH. I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THEY GIVE US SOME WX ON THE ATIS BROADCAST EVEN IF THE WX IS A FEW MINS OLD. THIS WOULD AT LEAST GIVE US AN IDEA WHAT THE WINDS AND VISIBILITY ARE AND GIVE US TIME TO FIGURE OUT WHAT APCH WE CAN PLAN ON. I FEEL THAT THIS CURRENT PRACTICE THAT THEY HAVE COULD LEAD TO PROBS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.