Crj captain reports relocation of lga VOR invalidates special engine failure procedure.

Attributes
ACN	712175
Time
Date	200610
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	navaid : lga.vor
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : tys.tower
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Regional Jet 700 ER&LR
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 121
Flight Phase	climbout : initial
Route In Use	departure other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
ASRS Report	712175
Events
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Navigational Facility
Primary Problem	Navigational Facility
Situations
Navigational Aid	LGA.VOR

Narrative:

I have noticed at lga that the VOR was moved .4 mi. This put a question on the single engine departure procedure on how to do the procedure with the VOR moved. There are bearings from an NDB to do it; but if you do not look at the fdc NOTAMS; I believe pilots will normally use the VOR DME in order to know when to do the turns. I think the chart should be revised to correct the VOR move. I feel just having the bearings from the NDB is unsafe and normally crews would not have the NDB needle up on the screens. The company is putting a note on the releases; but I think this should be a temporary fix only and a new chart should be made.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: CRJ CAPT RPTS RELOCATION OF LGA VOR INVALIDATES SPECIAL ENG FAILURE PROC.

Narrative: I HAVE NOTICED AT LGA THAT THE VOR WAS MOVED .4 MI. THIS PUT A QUESTION ON THE SINGLE ENG DEP PROC ON HOW TO DO THE PROC WITH THE VOR MOVED. THERE ARE BEARINGS FROM AN NDB TO DO IT; BUT IF YOU DO NOT LOOK AT THE FDC NOTAMS; I BELIEVE PLTS WILL NORMALLY USE THE VOR DME IN ORDER TO KNOW WHEN TO DO THE TURNS. I THINK THE CHART SHOULD BE REVISED TO CORRECT THE VOR MOVE. I FEEL JUST HAVING THE BEARINGS FROM THE NDB IS UNSAFE AND NORMALLY CREWS WOULD NOT HAVE THE NDB NEEDLE UP ON THE SCREENS. THE COMPANY IS PUTTING A NOTE ON THE RELEASES; BUT I THINK THIS SHOULD BE A TEMPORARY FIX ONLY AND A NEW CHART SHOULD BE MADE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.