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ZLIN50LX pilot and a bellanca 8GCBC pilot have an near midair collision while in the same waivered airspace.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 709700 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200609 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : l67.airport |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 1000 agl bound upper : 2500 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : charter |
| Make Model Name | Bellanca Aircraft Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft Low Wing 1 Eng Fixed Gear |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | cruise other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 280 flight time total : 3512 flight time type : 130 |
| ASRS Report | 709700 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4000 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 710014 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | airspace violation : entry conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 50 vertical : 50 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I departed long beach airport to tow a banner over the track; which is approximately 4 SM north of rialto airport. I did receive WX via computer. It took 50 mins to fly to the area I was to tow the banner around an event. Prior to entering about 10 SM to northwest of race track I made radio calls on 122.8 to rialto traffic (CTAF frequency) notifying rialto traffic of my intentions. Prior to overflying the race track I made a second report on 122.8 (rialto CTAF) and also made a report on 123.3 frequency; which is located as the frequency for acrobatic flight and student pilot training for that area. No responses were received. Upon being on station for 10 mins I made more position reports on 122.8 and 123.3 frequencys. After making several orbits around the track 2 acrobatic planes came very close as if they were flying formation. I continued to make more reports on 123.3 and 122.8; with no response. By the second pass of the acrobatic planes I decided to leave the area. I contacted riverside radio on 122.1 and was told of the acrobatic activity in that area per NOTAM. Upon landing at lgb I called hawthorne radio via telephone. Hawthorne radio had no NOTAM information for that area. Supplemental information from acn 710014: what really caused the problem was the banner towing plane's refusal to leave the area even after he had been contacted on the radio and informed of the closed airspace he was violating. After numerous attempts; I established radio contact on 122.8 with the pilot of the banner-towing aircraft. He idented himself as such to me. He had apparently heard my discussion that he should switch radio frequencys to our discrete frequency; as he replied on that frequency that he was working doing a job; and that he didn't care whether there was a temporary flight restr or a NOTAM for this particular airspace or not; he was going to continue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZLIN50LX PLT AND A BELLANCA 8GCBC PLT HAVE AN NMAC WHILE IN THE SAME WAIVERED AIRSPACE.
Narrative: I DEPARTED LONG BEACH ARPT TO TOW A BANNER OVER THE TRACK; WHICH IS APPROX 4 SM N OF RIALTO ARPT. I DID RECEIVE WX VIA COMPUTER. IT TOOK 50 MINS TO FLY TO THE AREA I WAS TO TOW THE BANNER AROUND AN EVENT. PRIOR TO ENTERING ABOUT 10 SM TO NW OF RACE TRACK I MADE RADIO CALLS ON 122.8 TO RIALTO TFC (CTAF FREQ) NOTIFYING RIALTO TFC OF MY INTENTIONS. PRIOR TO OVERFLYING THE RACE TRACK I MADE A SECOND RPT ON 122.8 (RIALTO CTAF) AND ALSO MADE A RPT ON 123.3 FREQ; WHICH IS LOCATED AS THE FREQ FOR ACROBATIC FLT AND STUDENT PLT TRAINING FOR THAT AREA. NO RESPONSES WERE RECEIVED. UPON BEING ON STATION FOR 10 MINS I MADE MORE POS RPTS ON 122.8 AND 123.3 FREQS. AFTER MAKING SEVERAL ORBITS AROUND THE TRACK 2 ACROBATIC PLANES CAME VERY CLOSE AS IF THEY WERE FLYING FORMATION. I CONTINUED TO MAKE MORE RPTS ON 123.3 AND 122.8; WITH NO RESPONSE. BY THE SECOND PASS OF THE ACROBATIC PLANES I DECIDED TO LEAVE THE AREA. I CONTACTED RIVERSIDE RADIO ON 122.1 AND WAS TOLD OF THE ACROBATIC ACTIVITY IN THAT AREA PER NOTAM. UPON LNDG AT LGB I CALLED HAWTHORNE RADIO VIA TELEPHONE. HAWTHORNE RADIO HAD NO NOTAM INFO FOR THAT AREA. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 710014: WHAT REALLY CAUSED THE PROB WAS THE BANNER TOWING PLANE'S REFUSAL TO LEAVE THE AREA EVEN AFTER HE HAD BEEN CONTACTED ON THE RADIO AND INFORMED OF THE CLOSED AIRSPACE HE WAS VIOLATING. AFTER NUMEROUS ATTEMPTS; I ESTABLISHED RADIO CONTACT ON 122.8 WITH THE PLT OF THE BANNER-TOWING ACFT. HE IDENTED HIMSELF AS SUCH TO ME. HE HAD APPARENTLY HEARD MY DISCUSSION THAT HE SHOULD SWITCH RADIO FREQS TO OUR DISCRETE FREQ; AS HE REPLIED ON THAT FREQ THAT HE WAS WORKING DOING A JOB; AND THAT HE DIDN'T CARE WHETHER THERE WAS A TEMPORARY FLT RESTR OR A NOTAM FOR THIS PARTICULAR AIRSPACE OR NOT; HE WAS GOING TO CONTINUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.