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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 705564 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200608 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cvg.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cvg.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 9000 |
| ASRS Report | 705564 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : company policies other anomaly other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : gpws other flight crewa |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the cince 5 arrival; we approached the airport on a right downwind. The first officer and I commented that they were bringing us very close to the runway. As we came up on the airport; final had us turn to a heading of 170 des and asked us if we had the field. We said we did and were cleared for a visual short approach to runway 36R. At that point; being high I slowed down and asked for flaps to 8 degrees and then 20 degrees; brought the spoilers out and increased the rate of descent to get down. When I felt we were in a safe distance to turn base I started turning and noticed that the winds were pushing us toward the final. We were still high so I increased the rate of descent. With speed below 180 KTS; I asked for flaps to 30 degrees (at that point not realizing the spoilers were still out) and continued the turn to final. Because the winds were out of the east; we rolled past final and had to come back right to intercept the final approach course. I then noticed that the speed was slowing too much and added power. That is when I noticed the spoilers were still out. I retracted the spoilers. At about the same time the first officer warned me about the excessive rate of descent; then the ground proximity went off. I leveled off; asked for the gear down and for flaps to 45 degrees and intercepted final at about 3 mi out and made a normal approach and landing.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CRJ200 ON VISUAL APCH TO CVG GOT A GPWS WARNING WHEN THEIR RATE OF DSCNT WAS TOO HIGH FOR THEIR ALT.
Narrative: ON THE CINCE 5 ARR; WE APCHED THE ARPT ON A R DOWNWIND. THE FO AND I COMMENTED THAT THEY WERE BRINGING US VERY CLOSE TO THE RWY. AS WE CAME UP ON THE ARPT; FINAL HAD US TURN TO A HDG OF 170 DES AND ASKED US IF WE HAD THE FIELD. WE SAID WE DID AND WERE CLRED FOR A VISUAL SHORT APCH TO RWY 36R. AT THAT POINT; BEING HIGH I SLOWED DOWN AND ASKED FOR FLAPS TO 8 DEGS AND THEN 20 DEGS; BROUGHT THE SPOILERS OUT AND INCREASED THE RATE OF DSCNT TO GET DOWN. WHEN I FELT WE WERE IN A SAFE DISTANCE TO TURN BASE I STARTED TURNING AND NOTICED THAT THE WINDS WERE PUSHING US TOWARD THE FINAL. WE WERE STILL HIGH SO I INCREASED THE RATE OF DSCNT. WITH SPD BELOW 180 KTS; I ASKED FOR FLAPS TO 30 DEGS (AT THAT POINT NOT REALIZING THE SPOILERS WERE STILL OUT) AND CONTINUED THE TURN TO FINAL. BECAUSE THE WINDS WERE OUT OF THE E; WE ROLLED PAST FINAL AND HAD TO COME BACK R TO INTERCEPT THE FINAL APCH COURSE. I THEN NOTICED THAT THE SPD WAS SLOWING TOO MUCH AND ADDED PWR. THAT IS WHEN I NOTICED THE SPOILERS WERE STILL OUT. I RETRACTED THE SPOILERS. AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME THE FO WARNED ME ABOUT THE EXCESSIVE RATE OF DSCNT; THEN THE GND PROX WENT OFF. I LEVELED OFF; ASKED FOR THE GEAR DOWN AND FOR FLAPS TO 45 DEGS AND INTERCEPTED FINAL AT ABOUT 3 MI OUT AND MADE A NORMAL APCH AND LNDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.