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A B737 first officer comments that his air carrier's fom requires both pilot's input into the flight planning process; but in reality capts make solo preflight decisions.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 702847 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200607 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
| State Reference | IL |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 702847 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Once again I arrive to operations to meet a captain I have never flown with. I went to the 'clipboard' and attached was the WX; and flight plan. No captain to be found. This is a safety of flight issue. I have written this up 3 times now and have not received any response from the flight office. If the company wants the flts to operate without the input of the first officer; then the fom needs to be changed. Otherwise; the flight office needs to develop a way to comply with the fom. The reason for not publishing the first flight of the day papers was a cost savings measure. I am all for this; but I am also all for a proper 'crew' briefing. Meeting the captain at the aircraft does not give us time to give my input. What if I had a concern with the fuel load; aircraft maintenance status; etc? I want an answer to what is going to be done. This has been going on now for way too long.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FO COMMENTS THAT HIS ACR'S FOM REQUIRES BOTH PLT'S INPUT INTO THE FLT PLANNING PROCESS; BUT IN REALITY CAPTS MAKE SOLO PREFLT DECISIONS.
Narrative: ONCE AGAIN I ARRIVE TO OPS TO MEET A CAPT I HAVE NEVER FLOWN WITH. I WENT TO THE 'CLIPBOARD' AND ATTACHED WAS THE WX; AND FLT PLAN. NO CAPT TO BE FOUND. THIS IS A SAFETY OF FLT ISSUE. I HAVE WRITTEN THIS UP 3 TIMES NOW AND HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY RESPONSE FROM THE FLT OFFICE. IF THE COMPANY WANTS THE FLTS TO OPERATE WITHOUT THE INPUT OF THE FO; THEN THE FOM NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. OTHERWISE; THE FLT OFFICE NEEDS TO DEVELOP A WAY TO COMPLY WITH THE FOM. THE REASON FOR NOT PUBLISHING THE FIRST FLT OF THE DAY PAPERS WAS A COST SAVINGS MEASURE. I AM ALL FOR THIS; BUT I AM ALSO ALL FOR A PROPER 'CREW' BRIEFING. MEETING THE CAPT AT THE ACFT DOES NOT GIVE US TIME TO GIVE MY INPUT. WHAT IF I HAD A CONCERN WITH THE FUEL LOAD; ACFT MAINT STATUS; ETC? I WANT AN ANSWER TO WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON NOW FOR WAY TOO LONG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.