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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 702662 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200607 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : dfw.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-300 and 300 ER |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 702662 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Company |
| Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Flight plan and tps was pulled up in operations. Tps called for a standard power takeoff with ptow 403.9 and atow 406.9. Load closeout indicated a takeoff weight of 405094 pounds. Takeoff was made using standard power as per the tps. Out time was XA48L and off at XB08L. We received a revised load closeout (rvsn 01). It showed a takeoff weight of 407388 pounds. This revised closeout was received nearly 2 hours after takeoff. We took off using the tps and original load closeout properly. However; 2 hours after gate departure; we learned that with the revised closeout that an improper tps was used. Such situations could be disastrous. I have the tps and closeouts. At what level did the error/omission occur? Why the time delay? What is the fix?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: 2 HRS AFTER TKOF A B767-300ER CREW RECEIVED A WT MANIFEST THAT SHOWED THEM OVER 2000 LBS HEAVIER THAN THEY PLANNED.
Narrative: FLT PLAN AND TPS WAS PULLED UP IN OPS. TPS CALLED FOR A STANDARD PWR TKOF WITH PTOW 403.9 AND ATOW 406.9. LOAD CLOSEOUT INDICATED A TKOF WT OF 405094 LBS. TKOF WAS MADE USING STANDARD PWR AS PER THE TPS. OUT TIME WAS XA48L AND OFF AT XB08L. WE RECEIVED A REVISED LOAD CLOSEOUT (RVSN 01). IT SHOWED A TKOF WT OF 407388 LBS. THIS REVISED CLOSEOUT WAS RECEIVED NEARLY 2 HRS AFTER TKOF. WE TOOK OFF USING THE TPS AND ORIGINAL LOAD CLOSEOUT PROPERLY. HOWEVER; 2 HRS AFTER GATE DEP; WE LEARNED THAT WITH THE REVISED CLOSEOUT THAT AN IMPROPER TPS WAS USED. SUCH SITUATIONS COULD BE DISASTROUS. I HAVE THE TPS AND CLOSEOUTS. AT WHAT LEVEL DID THE ERROR/OMISSION OCCUR? WHY THE TIME DELAY? WHAT IS THE FIX?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.