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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 702370 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200607 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : geu.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 1000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : geu.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Experimental |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : geu.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Beechcraft Beech Aircraft Corp Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : private |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 0 flight time total : 1463 flight time type : 371 |
| ASRS Report | 702370 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : executed go around |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I arranged for a good friend to accompany me on my first flight (of many months) to keep an eye on my skills and probable 'rust.' I was definitely rusty; but not in any danger to myself; or anyone else. My aircraft is a high performance aircraft with a very high climb rate; and speed. It was due to these facts; and to my expected rustiness; I requested a 'high speed' pattern altitude of 500 ft above the published normal altitude of 2100 ft MSL. My request was very poorly received by the controller; who informed me that the high speed pattern was for jets only; request denied; 'you will slow down to keep pace with the cessna 172 in the pattern.' I guess the controller was having a bad day; because he continued to give us a hard time during our 35-40 min in the pattern. Although there were only 4 or 5 planes in the pattern at any one time; he caused us to make two go-arounds in five cycles. On our 4TH approach to land; we were on short final; when the controller released a beechcraft bonanza directly in front of my aircraft; and immediately ordered us to go around. I consider this a near miss. The go around order wasn't really necessary; because we were so close to landing; we would have automatically performed a go around to avoid a collision. This near miss further aggravated the situation; and upon takeoff; I inadvertently exceeded the pattern altitude of 2100 ft MSL. On rollout after landing; the controller asked me to contact the tower; saying I might be cited for a 'pilot deviation.'
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: EXPERIMENTAL ACFT PLT HAS DIFFICULTIES WITH GEU TWR CTLR AND EXCEEDS THE PATTERN ALT AT GEU.
Narrative: I ARRANGED FOR A GOOD FRIEND TO ACCOMPANY ME ON MY FIRST FLT (OF MANY MONTHS) TO KEEP AN EYE ON MY SKILLS AND PROBABLE 'RUST.' I WAS DEFINITELY RUSTY; BUT NOT IN ANY DANGER TO MYSELF; OR ANYONE ELSE. MY ACFT IS A HIGH PERFORMANCE ACFT WITH A VERY HIGH CLB RATE; AND SPD. IT WAS DUE TO THESE FACTS; AND TO MY EXPECTED RUSTINESS; I REQUESTED A 'HIGH SPD' PATTERN ALT OF 500 FT ABOVE THE PUBLISHED NORMAL ALT OF 2100 FT MSL. MY REQUEST WAS VERY POORLY RECEIVED BY THE CTLR; WHO INFORMED ME THAT THE HIGH SPD PATTERN WAS FOR JETS ONLY; REQUEST DENIED; 'YOU WILL SLOW DOWN TO KEEP PACE WITH THE CESSNA 172 IN THE PATTERN.' I GUESS THE CTLR WAS HAVING A BAD DAY; BECAUSE HE CONTINUED TO GIVE US A HARD TIME DURING OUR 35-40 MIN IN THE PATTERN. ALTHOUGH THERE WERE ONLY 4 OR 5 PLANES IN THE PATTERN AT ANY ONE TIME; HE CAUSED US TO MAKE TWO GO-AROUNDS IN FIVE CYCLES. ON OUR 4TH APCH TO LAND; WE WERE ON SHORT FINAL; WHEN THE CTLR RELEASED A BEECHCRAFT BONANZA DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF MY ACFT; AND IMMEDIATELY ORDERED US TO GO AROUND. I CONSIDER THIS A NEAR MISS. THE GO AROUND ORDER WASN'T REALLY NECESSARY; BECAUSE WE WERE SO CLOSE TO LNDG; WE WOULD HAVE AUTOMATICALLY PERFORMED A GO AROUND TO AVOID A COLLISION. THIS NEAR MISS FURTHER AGGRAVATED THE SITUATION; AND UPON TKOF; I INADVERTENTLY EXCEEDED THE PATTERN ALT OF 2100 FT MSL. ON ROLLOUT AFTER LNDG; THE CTLR ASKED ME TO CONTACT THE TWR; SAYING I MIGHT BE CITED FOR A 'PLT DEV.'
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.