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| Attributes | |
| ACN | 700750 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200606 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : jfk.vor |
| State Reference | NY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 30000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B767-400 and 400 ER |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : j174.airway |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | climbout : vacating altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 10400 flight time type : 2800 |
| ASRS Report | 700750 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 15000 |
| ASRS Report | 700065 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical non adherence : far non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
| Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
On climb out; switched from new york departure to washington. Called leveling FL230. Controller quickly cleared us to FL380. We read back climb to FL380 and we continued to FL380. I recalled we had initially filed and loaded into the FMS FL340. I mentioned to the captain we were filed for FL340. We both pointed to FL380 in the altitude window and confirmed FL380. I also grabbed the flight plan and while I was looking at it; the captain said we were planning to climb to FL380 about 150 NM further down the road (according to flight plan). Had FL340 been our final; we would have told the controller FL340 was our filed altitude. However; since we were going to climb to FL380 later; he didn't seem to mind climbing to FL380 now passing FL290? I heard washington calling to air carrier Y stop climb 2 or 3 times. Then washington said 'air carrier X stop climb.' I realized immediately what was happening. I saw another aircraft symbol on our TCAS directly in front at FL310. I read back stop climb. We were climbing at over 2000 FPM. Washington again called stop climbing and turn to 200 degree heading. We started a turn and descent and then heard an RA calling for 1000 FPM descent. I picked up the aircraft visually and saw we were going to be well clear. When we passed the aircraft; we were greater than 500 ft lower and undetermined lateral spacing. We were in a large descent and leveled at FL290; and climbed back to FL300 and called ATC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B767 IN ZDC AIRSPACE WAS TOLD TO CLB TO FL380. PASSING FL300; CTLR CALLED TO STOP CLB AS A TCAS RA DSND SOUNDED.
Narrative: ON CLBOUT; SWITCHED FROM NEW YORK DEP TO WASHINGTON. CALLED LEVELING FL230. CTLR QUICKLY CLRED US TO FL380. WE READ BACK CLB TO FL380 AND WE CONTINUED TO FL380. I RECALLED WE HAD INITIALLY FILED AND LOADED INTO THE FMS FL340. I MENTIONED TO THE CAPT WE WERE FILED FOR FL340. WE BOTH POINTED TO FL380 IN THE ALT WINDOW AND CONFIRMED FL380. I ALSO GRABBED THE FLT PLAN AND WHILE I WAS LOOKING AT IT; THE CAPT SAID WE WERE PLANNING TO CLB TO FL380 ABOUT 150 NM FURTHER DOWN THE ROAD (ACCORDING TO FLT PLAN). HAD FL340 BEEN OUR FINAL; WE WOULD HAVE TOLD THE CTLR FL340 WAS OUR FILED ALT. HOWEVER; SINCE WE WERE GOING TO CLB TO FL380 LATER; HE DIDN'T SEEM TO MIND CLBING TO FL380 NOW PASSING FL290? I HEARD WASHINGTON CALLING TO ACR Y STOP CLB 2 OR 3 TIMES. THEN WASHINGTON SAID 'ACR X STOP CLB.' I REALIZED IMMEDIATELY WHAT WAS HAPPENING. I SAW ANOTHER ACFT SYMBOL ON OUR TCAS DIRECTLY IN FRONT AT FL310. I READ BACK STOP CLB. WE WERE CLBING AT OVER 2000 FPM. WASHINGTON AGAIN CALLED STOP CLBING AND TURN TO 200 DEG HDG. WE STARTED A TURN AND DSCNT AND THEN HEARD AN RA CALLING FOR 1000 FPM DSCNT. I PICKED UP THE ACFT VISUALLY AND SAW WE WERE GOING TO BE WELL CLR. WHEN WE PASSED THE ACFT; WE WERE GREATER THAN 500 FT LOWER AND UNDETERMINED LATERAL SPACING. WE WERE IN A LARGE DSCNT AND LEVELED AT FL290; AND CLBED BACK TO FL300 AND CALLED ATC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.