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Phx controller described incident when C172 was allowed to land with previous L39 arrival clearing downfield; no operational error recorded.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 699440 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200606 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : phx.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Flight Phase | landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | VFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller limited radar : 7 controller radar : 2 |
| ASRS Report | 699440 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 7000 |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
L39 was on landing roll at the departure end of runway 7R and about to turn. I allowed a cessna to land runway 7R that was crossing the threshold and even told him traffic was more than 6000 ft down the runway. This rule; however; is not applicable with consecutive arrs when a category 3 is involved. Safety was never jeopardized.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PHX CTLR DESCRIBED INCIDENT WHEN C172 WAS ALLOWED TO LAND WITH PREVIOUS L39 ARR CLRING DOWNFIELD; NO OPERROR RECORDED.
Narrative: L39 WAS ON LNDG ROLL AT THE DEP END OF RWY 7R AND ABOUT TO TURN. I ALLOWED A CESSNA TO LAND RWY 7R THAT WAS XING THE THRESHOLD AND EVEN TOLD HIM TFC WAS MORE THAN 6000 FT DOWN THE RWY. THIS RULE; HOWEVER; IS NOT APPLICABLE WITH CONSECUTIVE ARRS WHEN A CATEGORY 3 IS INVOLVED. SAFETY WAS NEVER JEOPARDIZED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.