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MD80 pilot expressed concern regarding las tower controller's practice of clearing aircraft for takeoff when preceding traffic is not yet airborne.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 694550 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200604 |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
| State Reference | NV |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-83 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 694550 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance FAA |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Las tower has a habit of clearing aircraft for takeoff when the other aircraft has not even rotated. I know that they can issue the clearance when it can be anticipated the other aircraft will be airborne when the clearance is issued. However; several times I have been cleared for takeoff when the other aircraft is not even 2000-3000 ft down the runway. Also; aircraft behind me have been cleared for takeoff prior to us reaching 80 KTS. This is a dangerous situation set up by tower. If I abort my takeoff; what's the aircraft behind me supposed to do?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 PLT EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING LAS TWR CTLR'S PRACTICE OF CLRING ACFT FOR TKOF WHEN PRECEDING TFC IS NOT YET AIRBORNE.
Narrative: LAS TWR HAS A HABIT OF CLRING ACFT FOR TKOF WHEN THE OTHER ACFT HAS NOT EVEN ROTATED. I KNOW THAT THEY CAN ISSUE THE CLRNC WHEN IT CAN BE ANTICIPATED THE OTHER ACFT WILL BE AIRBORNE WHEN THE CLRNC IS ISSUED. HOWEVER; SEVERAL TIMES I HAVE BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF WHEN THE OTHER ACFT IS NOT EVEN 2000-3000 FT DOWN THE RWY. ALSO; ACFT BEHIND ME HAVE BEEN CLRED FOR TKOF PRIOR TO US REACHING 80 KTS. THIS IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION SET UP BY TWR. IF I ABORT MY TKOF; WHAT'S THE ACFT BEHIND ME SUPPOSED TO DO?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.